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    Sheesh, I thought it was a fleet of ambulances going south up on the highway!

    Condolences due in either case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lionelgee View Post
    Hello All,

    Has anyone here been using AI programs such as Manus or Genspark, or Skywork? Is there real substance behind all the hype? I have been watching multiple Youtube clips and online searches for 'versus' reviews between different AI programs. The previously listed seem to be at the pointy end of a top 5 AI programs - well until a new 'latest and greatest' AI program comes along. Probably within the next five minutes after writing this post a new one will come along that will as the language seems to go, "wipe the floor of all the previous AI players" and "assume total dominance". Blah blah. AI seems to attract heaps and heaps of hype. Go figure.

    Background: I have been directed by multiple people in the past two weeks that I should get much more clued up about utilising AI programs for doing academic research and using it to produce products. For example, convert a thesis chapter from my PhD into a peer reviewed journal article. Convert my thesis itself into a book. Convert my thesis into an online learning course - where AI can produce everything from lesson plans to assessment tools. Also, make some applications that can be utilised on mobile phones. Oh, and generate a webpage for me. Wash my car, brush the cat - okay the last bits are not included - at the moment.

    I have been doing some human driven research - just using my own brain - and come across programs like Manus, Genspark, and Skywork with the odd and apparently ever decreasing mention of ChatGPT. My stuff is academic research based and then hopefully channelling it into such things as consultancy and training.

    Another thing to consider is that apparently Manus does not have a fixed subscription. Some reviewers have suggested that if more time than intended is spent producing a product the user can be sent a big bill. I would much prefer a fixed bill so that a budget can be maintained.

    I am a total novice in relation to AI so insight from more experienced players will be most greatly appreciated.

    Kind regards
    Lionel
    Hi Lionel. I have played with Google Gemini (free 6 month trail that came with my Windows10 replacement computer), Perplexity free for 3 per day, Chat GPT free bits only and reviewed some interesting stuff on a odd one by a company that makes electric cars My finance and investment side mostly.


    Some very good and some very poor results.

    I did also put the Chinese product onto a redundant wiped phone for a comparison test.

    One question posed on contracts with US government for an Australian 3 D welding company for example gives me a huge range of Suttle or clear divergence and capability. With out exception all fail to give recent data! One pointed outs its data was a few years old


    Flipping this to a non-finance question like "current research resulting from CRISPER technology" gave me a lot of news I wasn't aware of and very interesting for agriculture, science and of course medical bits. With Mega trends and revolutionary changes some times the unexpected outcomes can be the most impactful.



    Factually Incorrect information was seen frequently! That clearly wrong and correct information is presented as facts makes me think AI is not yet to be trusted without though review and verification.

    Skywork AI is being used by a few Medical people I know. They don't have to pay for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lionelgee View Post
    Hello All,

    Can you hear screaming?
    Apart from the usual existential dread one I utter upon waking up? No.

    My question about asking the AI was a little TIC. the only thing I have ever asked Grok for was a picture I uses on another thread here. Worked out quite well, but then it wasn't an onerous task.

    Don't get me started on "influencers", which should be influenzas imo. Awful, and highly contagious. Which brings me back to the dark side of AI. As I said elsewhere, I have come across really quite convincing vids, "starring" usually attractive 30 something women ( I use the term inadvisably ) who dress like clinicians, and speak with a certain flirty gravity, and are described as doctors, or in this case more particularly urologists, telling me that a health regime of onanism is good for my prostate. Well, I was asking due to the effects of strong hormone blockers (They don't just block the offending hormones, they block them all) on my usually reliable waterworks. I also did not ask YT directly, but I did use their master's search engine, so of course it trickled down.

    I make no comment on the sagacity of the advice, as my GP kinda agrees, but I do worry that people will fall into the trap of "self diagnosis" on the basis that they don't believe it is self diagnosis when a pretty, or handsome, or purple haired, depending on the demographic, doctor gives it. I only really spotted it when one pretty construct was replaced with another, on a different vid. Once you see it it's obvious, but that probably won't always be the case, and it requires thinking, which most youtube consumers are being trained not to do. They both, with different voices, mouthed the same script, they had captions that wouldn't go away, and they NEVER looked directly at what would have been the camera in a natural setting. I could imagine some folks drinking the Kool Aid, if they were told to by these things.

    Navigating the complex health system I find myself in lately is bad enough, without having the software that claimed that George Washington was black, or that parrots the narrative of the individuals that coded it, muddying the waters. Now, I'm smart enough to know that the internet is not always right, but not everyone else is.

    Anyone with a computer and an internet connection can make these vids, and YT will publish them. Caveat Emptor.
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