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    Who said Microsoft was bad for download patches?

    I know everyone moans about the fact that Microsoft products need lots of patches but consider this:

    Since getting my new Laptop with Vista I have had to download:
    Over 300MB from the Sony website to get it working
    Over 250MB from the Adobe website in patches
    Over 70MB from Symantec website in patches
    and only about 60MB from the Microsoft website in patches!

    I think this just kind of hit me when I got my nice new copy of Photoshop CS3 Extended today and after installing I checked for updates ... 103MB

    How would anyone survive on dialup nowdays?
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    That my friend, is known as the "hidden" upgrade dependencies.

    I just updated my OS tonight. Mandriva 2007.1
    Took about 1 1\2 cups of coffee to download, and install, on the fly, 133 entire system and application updates. And that included a complete update to the kernel. And not one single system reboot required.
    Ah, I do like Linux.

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    Unfortunately the tools I want don't work on Linux ... unless I swap to a Mac (its a kind of unix too) ... then RovacomLite wouldn't work
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    Quote Originally Posted by dm_td5 View Post
    I know everyone moans about the fact that Microsoft products need lots of patches but consider this:
    It's not the amount, but the fact when you apply them in the background (As the security centre prompts you to set up) I've seen countless machines killed by them. The point is, the very users that follow these instructions are the non-technical ones who don't take an image backup before making a system change.....seen it happen too many times.
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    Ain't it so.

    None of the dyno and Hi-performance ECU stuff my mate gave me is any good under Linux.
    Haltech, Motech, all Winslow slaves.

    Yep, that bloke could do amazing things with the old 486 notebook in the glove box of the race engine works test car. Remap the ECU on the fly.
    I was in the damn thing one day when it all flew apart.
    Silly grin, and "oops" was all he said.

    Now that was a system update suddenly needed.


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    if it ain't broke don't fix it !

    saying that MS has a reputation for being, well, crap
    it was slowly getting it's act together, then they issue vista

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    Quote Originally Posted by dm_td5 View Post
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    How would anyone survive on dialup nowdays?
    Unfortunately, some have little choice - broadband not available here except satellite or NextG, both with uncertain costs (well, NextG is certainly far too expensive to consider, and mandates Windows) and unable to fin out power demands for satellite. This would probably apply to very large numbers of places in Australia, including a lot of suburban locations.

    And there are probably at least some who do not have and have no need for an internet connection at all. How do these get on?

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    telstra 3g now has unofficial mac support now as well...

    does not work very well but they are moving to fully support it with an automated install.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    Unfortunately, some have little choice - broadband not available here except satellite or NextG, both with uncertain costs (well, NextG is certainly far too expensive to consider, and mandates Windows) and unable to fin out power demands for satellite. This would probably apply to very large numbers of places in Australia, including a lot of suburban locations.

    And there are probably at least some who do not have and have no need for an internet connection at all. How do these get on?

    John
    I had satellite a few years back not the two way type , (read :expensive) the one that sent packets via phone and recieved via satellite, set up was about $450-$500 as I rememeber.
    Running costs were comparible to adsl.
    Speed was reasonable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by incisor View Post
    telstra 3g now has unofficial mac support now as well...

    does not work very well but they are moving to fully support it with an automated install.
    Its working fine on Mac now!

    I have Internode DSL2+M at home
    Next G on my mobile
    and Next G wireless Express card in my Mac for out and about moments!

    Nothing like sitting at a roadhouse, having a coffee and chatting on the net!

    Or pulled into a roadside stop, Mac on the guard, looking up whatever....

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