sell me vista

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Originally Posted by Grizzly_Adams

No, it's so he can sell the OEM version and save you hundreds of $$$.

OEM versions must be sold with certain hardware.

Hence the power cable :)

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the OEM license provides you can sell it with an essential part of a computer, but cant be things like hdd or cpu etc etc or you can sell it preinstalled with a complete system.

power cable is the cheapest bit of gear that legally fits the obligations.

the limitation of the OEM is it is licensed to that particular machine and if you blow a motherboard in a storm or under warranty you have to reactivate and that normally means a call to their support team and the activation robots and you cant do an upgrade install.

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Originally Posted by incisor

the limitation of the OEM is it is licensed to that particular machine and if you blow a motherboard in a storm or under warranty you have to reactivate and that normally means a call to their support team and the activation robots and you cant do an upgrade install.

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wah!! had not heard that little gem before...
another 'tweak' microsoft has given us for 'free'.

any reason you can think of to go for vista ultimate over and above premium?

**sigh** glad all this isn't a problem I have to deal with :D :D

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Originally Posted by Pedro_The_Swift

a E6750 to be exact, plus
2 X Gainwood Geforce 8600Gt's Golden Samples
GA N680SLI DQ6
2gb of G skill at 1066mhz
a SATAII HD of some description---
not sure if 480 watts will be enough,,,,

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Sounds like a bit of a beast that would be a Jag v12 if it were an engine:D

At the moment I would prob not go for the 64bit OS though it's no real improvement or draw back either way, I would prob just get which ever is cheaper.
I know the net. admin bloke has a problem at times getting drivers for 64 but that's server stuff I don't know how hard it is or not for Vista. We are still an XP outfit, (for now)

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Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot

**sigh** glad all this isn't a problem I have to deal with

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It's no problem it's EVOLUTION :D:D

I have no problem with 64-bit and actively encourage it in the home arena.

The more people use 64-bit, the more vendors will be forced to write drivers for it and the more we can migrate away from the limited 32-bit architecture :)

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Originally Posted by Grizzly_Adams

I have no problem with 64-bit and actively encourage it in the home arena.

The more people use 64-bit, the more vendors will be forced to write drivers for it and the more we can migrate away from the limited 32-bit architecture :)

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Yes in a perfect world 64 is much better but you hit the nail on the head. It's prob not going to be main stream for another year or two ie all drives/software etc taking advantage of 64.

So at the moment it doesn treally matter either way.
Is 32 cheaper than 64?

no, same price, 32bit is way more stable at the moment, many of the drivers that are out there for 64bit are very unstable...

yea,, but I dont want to have to do this again in 12 months time

All I can say is that I run 64-bit and have not noticed any of the instability that Inc. has mentioned (though he will have more exposure to it than I, for sure).

The baddest I have had is the odd video driver crash and Vista has recovered from that wonderfully now that they've moved the video drivers out of Kernel space and into user space :) No reboot, no closed programs - just an error saying the video driver had crashed and been restarted :)

With newer kit I honestly expect you'd be ok - but once again Inc. would have more exposure in support that I would.

The only thing that took me a while to get drivers for was my UPS, everything else was supported when I got Vista-64 4 months ago. UPS is supported now so I'm happy :)

One thing to remember about 64-bit though is that M$ only supports 1 architecture back - so you can run 16-bit programs on a 32-bit OS but you can't run 16-bit programs on a 64-bit OS.

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Originally Posted by Pedro_The_Swift

yea,, but I dont want to have to do this again in 12 months time

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I say that every year around July ;)