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    Vintage IBM tape drive in Apollo moon dust rescue

    40-year-old data recovery By Austin ModineGet more from this author
    11th November 2008 06:37 GMT


    An Australian scientist hopes to restore a vintage, refrigerator-sized IBM tape drive stored in a museum to recover Apollo moon mission data the space agency misplaced nearly 40f years ago.
    NASA's only means of measuring moon dust during its Apollo missions has gone largely unappreciated until recently, reports Australia's ABC News. Now the trouble is getting a 1960s-era IBM 729 Mark V tape drive necessary to read the data up and running.
    NASA's Apollo 11, 12, and 14 missions used a "dust detector" invented by Perth physicist Brian O'Brien. The data was stored on 173 data tapes at NASA and Sydney University, but O'Brien's preliminary findings didn't receive much interest, so the tapes were sent to storage.
    Now moon dust is all the rage at NASA, which hopes to return there and even eventually build a lunar base. Unfortunately, a past "archiving error" resulted in NASA's copies getting chucked — and it only realized the error two years ago.
    Luckily, the Australian backups didn't receive the same fate. O'Brien contacted the data recovery company SpectrumData, which offered to try and get hold of the information.
    The tapes were kept in a climate-controlled room since then, but with no real way to unlock the data. Then SpectrumData stumbled upon an old IBM 729 Mark V tape drive at the Australian Computer Museum Society, which agreed to loan the historic metal.
    "It's going to have to be a custom job to get it working again. It's certainly not simple, there's a lot of circuitry in there, it's old, it's not as clean as it should be, and there's a lot of work to do," said Guy Holmes of SpectrumData.
    He hopes to get the machine in working order by January, which will then take about a week to extract the long-lost moon dust data. ®
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro_The_Swift View Post
    Vintage IBM tape drive in Apollo moon dust rescue

    40-year-old data recovery By Austin ModineGet more from this author
    11th November 2008 06:37 GMT


    An Australian scientist hopes to restore a vintage, refrigerator-sized IBM tape drive stored in a museum to recover Apollo moon mission data the space agency misplaced nearly 40f years ago.
    NASA's only means of measuring moon dust during its Apollo missions has gone largely unappreciated until recently, reports Australia's ABC News. Now the trouble is getting a 1960s-era IBM 729 Mark V tape drive necessary to read the data up and running. ...

    .... The tapes were kept in a climate-controlled room since then, but with no real way to unlock the data. Then SpectrumData stumbled upon an old IBM 729 Mark V tape drive at the Australian Computer Museum Society, which agreed to loan the historic metal. ...
    Typical isn't it? Good thing that there are some enthusiasts who have saved some of these things, like CIRAC the CSIRO one and also one of the last functioning early generation computers in the world.

    Apparently the same fate has beset the NSW RTA records, in 1991 they introduced a new computer now there isn't a computer available that can still read the old tapes from prior to 1991.

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    The Internet censorship the government is bringing in will take us back to the stone age of computing anyway, might as well get used to it.

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    G'day All, Did they actually land on the Moon, I'm a skeptical about it, when you think back on it way back in 69, now technology has moved on considerably since then, and no-one has revisted the Moon, the Japs had some fancy thing orbiting the Moon about 18 months ago, taking mickey mouse pix (and bragging about being able to see the left behind debris from previous missions) but Nothing since, now this 08, 39 years later and no-one has gone back, methinks it's a load of s**t just my thoughts and I won't change them until I see proof of previous missions i.e. something like google Moon LOL cheers Dennis
    PS and good on the Oz bloke who made the gizmo to measure Moon dust..

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    I was a technical officer (actually A/g Senior Technician Gr. IIA) at Moree Satellite Earth Station during the first moon landing in 1969.

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    We provided the comms back to the USA after it was sent from Parkes via our control centre in Paddington (pic below circa 1969).



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    i suppose the machine needs a lot of work to get it going - should be a good earner for the restorer, might need a lot of dust removed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dinty View Post
    G'day All, Did they actually land on the Moon, I'm a skeptical about it, ...
    It must have happened Sam Neil was in charge of the Parkes Radio Telescope that Rob Stich made the documentary on! Isn't it funny that Parkes back in 1969 looks so much like Forbes today?

    Although I'm with Ron on this one, there are too many people and many of them scientists all around the world that would have been shouting from the rooftops had it been a fraud.

    I believe that it just too expensive and during the Regan years they wanted to spend money on "Star Wars defense system" and not science.

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    some would say that parkes is STILL living in 1969 :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by EchiDna View Post
    some would say that parkes is STILL living in 1969 :P
    Some may say that, however it wasn't looking 1969 enough for the Director of "The Dish" so they shot the location footage of "Parkes" township in Forbes.

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    Time to dig out the 8-tracks.

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