Thread: Windows7 a Con? Well it comes from Micro$oft

Originally Posted by bruiser69

At work I run SAP front end & at home SAP on a Citrix connection plus Office 2007. Occasionally Autocad 2010.
Our IT dept in Sydney doesn't even support SAP on Vista (i had to work this out myself) so what hope would i have running it on a Mac Windows emulator?

cheers..B

Pretty good actually. I use Citrix on the Mac quite often when outside the firewall and inside I just use Microsoft Remote Desktop when I need to connect to the Terminal Server.

I use Office 2008, but it does not have VB support

Umm, SAP, I think you will find that the Mac is supported quite well given most front ends are java apps. Anyway why aren't you guys moving to SaaS? :P

But it does depend on what the application provides and the client app requirements.

Have never tried Autocad on Parallels but you do have the option of Bootcamp which is not emulation at all but a separate partition running whatever i386 (32 bit) or i686 (32 or 64 bit) OS you want to install.

Alan

Originally Posted by bruiser69

Mac may run Citrix but will it run either natively or in Windows emulator SAP & Autocad 2010?

SAP comes in thousands of flavours (probably hundreds of thousands). Running SAP requires a server (actually many servers) but I assumed you were referring to the client interface and not the whole shebang. As to what support is given for client apps, well this is entirely up to the systems designers. It is possible that they may have compiled a client that will only run on certain Windows versions (XP, 2000, etc.) and that has nothing to do with Mac OS compatibility but with the decision making processes of the design team. On the other hand they may distribute the java applet and run it through a JVM, in which case it would run on a Mac and anything else that has a JVM. However that creates certain security risks, so the first scenario is likely to be the case.

If it is the case then you may be able to access the application via a terminal client or with Citrix, or install Parallels and install XP/2000 on it.

Alan

Yea I run citrix.
Can get slow when you run your app via citrix via citrix via citrix though

Originally Posted by dm_td5

Mac OS, Windows, Ubuntu usability aside the one thing that really amazes me is the price Microsoft charges for a Windows upgrade. I'm amazed they haven't brought the price down over the last few years to at least below $100.

In Perth you can get an OME copy of Win 7 Home Premium for just under $120 at the moment. That is just about tolerable for me but yeah, the full retail price is mind boggling.

The has been a bit of talk from MS Australia in the last few days of releasing a family pack like Apple do but no details on price has been mentioned. It is available in the US but I can't believe we will see it here any time soon, not while the early adopters are prepared to pay current prices.

BUGGER!







windows 7 isnt totally evil when you can run somewhere safe when you need to :P



it isnt photoshpped either....

That looks like Mac OS running on Windows 7. I'm guessing you are you using the Virtualisation application that you can download from Micro$oft to do this. How successful /stable is the Mac OS running in virtualisation? Can you run majority of Mac programs.
Cheers..B

Originally Posted by Ferret

Here's a few classic threads too

Woah where did my HD go?

Home folder lost - user account restored to default

User profile reset?

Nothing ever goes wrong with Mac, does it - you just loose all your personal data occasionally due to bugs in the Mac OS.

What does all the above mean - the true answer is nothing other than there are bugs in the Apple OS and there are bugs in the MS OS and the reality is that users of both systems have problems - some serious, some trivial.

However, every now and then someone from one or the other camps pops up to bore us with their views that product X or company Y is infallible. Usually the inference is that "if you aren't using what I'm using then you must must be stupid". Debates along these lines contribute nothing other than causing tension.

You say
Well, I'd say your failing somewhat.

Well i have to say mac OS does have some issues but i have gained about 40 hours of week of sleep switching to Mac. thats putting up with crashes, driver issues (now i even know what a driver is with a mac, i forgot about them) anyway dealing with all my friends and families windows issues just became to much so i switched them over as well and honestly havnt received any calls for help in 2 years except the occasional "how do i do this on a mac" The only problem i have had is a hard drive failure but thats common with any PC and manufacturer specific. I have to finish by saying i really HATE windows but not as much as i hate Telstra.

anyone that thinks any software is infallible is out of touch with reality..

mac just has significantly lower support times, costs, overheads or however you wish to quantify it. proven it tomyself time and time again.

it is intrisically much easier for those with little or no knowledge of computing to use... and very satisfying for those with advanced knowledge.

i get many older people with very little computer knowledge thru my doors and those that switch to mac rarely come back in as they seem to be able to get their head around the basics way easier than they can on a windows or *nix machine.

two simple bits of software keep your mac free of unwanted things, onyx and a must have for those with windows friends, clamxav.

as for the argument about software availability, "generally" speaking just about any type of software you can get for a pc you can get for a mac, there just isnt 5976 versions of the same thing available.