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I have found some sway bar linkages that im lookin at trying to fit as a quick disconect in the front.
http://www.turnermotorsport.com/imag...0_e36_1_lg.jpg
when I can work it all out ill but the gear and get it done.
Ill also let you all know when its finished and how much it cost and if its worth it or not.
I just found this for the disco 2 but im shore they could be fitted to the disco 1
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...10/09/1821.jpg
1994-2004 Land Rover Discovery Upgrades - Enchancements - Four Wheeler Magazine
They also have other things there worth lookin at.
I have had a look at one of these and it is a great piece of kit, very well made and uses several Land Rover parts and an AVM hub so it can be repaired with off the shelf parts, several people have fitted them to Discoveries and I believe they are very popular, have a look at the site they make some really good stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by whitakerb
X-eng High Performance Off-Road Engineering
Dont know what all the fuss is about. The best disconects are the ones where you completly disconect the sway bars.
Just took mine off and ok leans around corners but only slightly but no more chop left to right as the sway bars pull the car back to level and a much calmer and smoother ride and its all for free.
If you need sway bars in your disco then you should have bought a car.
i believe the fuss is about removing sway bars altogether is illegal, as is having them disconnected while on the road?Quote:
Originally Posted by Brettsky64
Even if it's not, I'm sure the insurance companies would take a dim view of it?
Its not about wether you want them or not, its about what was fitted by the factory, and as a result required by law as that is how the car was type approved. We are trying to get the best performance with what we have to work with and for most of us staying within the rules at the same time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brettsky64
Yes sure I could take them off and have no problem for the 10% of the time I am off road and a roly poly ride for the rest of the time I am driving.
So when you go around a corner and something unexpected happens, maybe you have to swerve, and for arguments sake your car tips up as it has no sway bar that may have just made the difference, the police arrive, and some savvy officer realises what you have done and you get prosecuted, then your insurance company will not pay out so you lose your car, you may even get sued by someone else for some damage you cause and you have no cover.
Thats way we make the "fuss" and there are some good products out there to help you.
Not quite such a clever idea then is it?
Have you advised your insurance company about the removal of your sway bars?
very good argument cracker but quite a lot of dislocating products are also not passed for use on road either and are not tested by the road authorities...so both arguments are flawed really..
really if you want to stay within the law you leave it on full stop!!
I dont have mine on the rear only because I kept smashing up the bushes and having the bar banging and crashing around within the mounts.. I would like to put mine back on but I need a way of easily disconnnecting it..even if I find something its just as illegal as not running one at all..
how do I know, my engineer will not entertain signing off on anything that fusses with the roll bar..it is a safety feature and like brakes should not be touched..according to him.
Yes some cars out there like the jeep have a disconnect..but like you pointed out it came from factory like that
You are quite right too Dullbird, the only way to be sure is to not touch it, maybe the best way is to have bolts that are quick to get off and on so you can disconnect at the start of you off road foray and reconnect after, perhaps bolts not covered in rust, and then swing the bar 180 deg under the fuel tank and out the way.
Not sure on the law about what constitutes a sway bar, can it only be the factory fitted unit, or can it be a replacement, the X-Eng bar featured earlier is quoted somewhere as being 4 times stiffer than the factory unit, as the flexible section of the bar is actually a Land Rover half shaft, so they are probably right. Do they (authorities) let you fit something that is more safe than the manufacturers offering.
I am going to a show on Saturday the LRO Peterborough show, I know the designer will be there, I will ask him.
as far as I'm aware you can fit it to a car as long as it meets all ADR's and it has been test by the relevant test authorities and is deemed safe to be used on the car on the road....
I believe you can get engineers to sign off on certain stuff however my engineer is very much by the book as he says its his name at stake
As promised, discussed the issue of approval with the designer of the bar, as discussed, we don't have the issues in this country with approvals like you do in Australia so in this area it is not an issue for us (to be honest I am not sure how the whole thing works)
This is a brand new product and so far just over 20 have been sold, interestingly 2 have been shipped to Australia.
I imagine it is completely impractical to do do this type of approval for Australia because of the stupid amounts of money involved, but as the unit is of very solid construction, I am sure a vehicle engineer would be impressed, its been designed by other vehicle engineers.
To protect the company, the company (X Eng) carries product liability insurance to cover itself should a product be proven to cause an accident, not been used yet, on any product.
It has been mentioned in this thread that it could make the car tail happy, apparently after research, thats how it has been designed as buyers here wanted more oversteer in preference to under steer.
If you are wondering, I have nothing whatsoever to do with X-Eng, what I am doing is supporting a small British company that is bringing out good products for our Landrovers with "Made in England" on them.
Quick addition, they are currently modifying the brackets for as better fit on Discovery 1's, his words were, give us a couple of months and we will have them availiable, the current bar is designed for the Defender and will fit a Discovery 1 but can rub in a couple of places during articulation.