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Excellent idea thanks mate I have it delivered so i'll be sure to have a long hard look at it.. as long as they dont only do the big high priced brands like warn tjm etc. nothing worse than a comparo that is obviously paid for buy the entrantsQuote:
Originally Posted by Rezley
Here's something to ponder on regarding winch pull... (It's something I posted up on another forum.)
Make sense??Quote:
OK... You ready for this?
Firstly, let us look at pulling the van along a level surface. Take the total weight of the vehicle and multiply it by the following loadings:
Road – 5%
Grass – 15%
Sand/Gravel – 20%
Soft sand – 30%
Mud – 35%
Bog/clay – 50%
So, if you’re running at your maximum and you’re stuck in soft sand, you will need a line pull of 1050kg (3500 x 30%).
Now, let us look at going up hill! The equation looks much like this: (Angle of slope / 60) x vehicle weight. Once you have calculated this, you then add it to the previously calculated pull on a level surface.
So, let us put that van in a very sticky situation... It is stuck in very sticky mud and you’re trying to winch it up a 20 degree slope. (Frankly, you probably would have turned around a while back but it makes for a good example). The calculations come out much like this:
Ground - 3500kg x 50% = 1750kg
Slope – 3500 x (20/60) = 1166kg
Total line pull required will be 2916kg (1750kg + 1166kg).
So, even for a fairly extreme situation, you probably wouldn’t need more than a 3000kg pull...
As for the Turfors... They might be slow but they're lighter and will get you out of more situations than a vehicle mounted electric winch.
M
Actually... As it's such a common question, it might be worth creating a sticky regarding winches.
M
for what it's worth I toasted my Warn 9500 lb winch in a bog hole with the pan suctioned to the bottom.
It was only single pull right out to the last wrap, which is the strongest wrap on a winch.
P.S. it did last long enough to get me out
so at least a 12000lb next for me
Hmmm... Was that the fault of the winch or laziness of the operator not getting in there with a spade to help clear a route out???
Even at 9,500lb, you risk pulling the front end off or deforming the chassis...
Maybe you should be thankful it was just your motor that gave out!!
M
It was during the beginning of the wet near at the flood plains trying to get to the Howard River rock bar.Quote:
Originally Posted by camel_landy
The huge tyre brigade had been there before me and I ended up on the pan as the track had been chewed out. I had about 8" of gap between the bottom of the tyres and the bottom of the rut so no amount of digging would have helped.
No it wasn't laziness, I couldn't double up the cable as even with extra rope I only just made length to get to a suitable tree to pull from. It was just on dusk, the tide had turned which meant that the flood plains were about to raise about 1 + metres and I had my kids with me so time was not something I had an excess of.
so for me the next one is going to be a competiton jobbie of 15000lb
Admittedly most people wont ever get into these places but if you do then you need to be aware that as I said above there are time when you can put a 9500 to beyond it's limits