300 Tdi won't start...just out of the blue!

**Casper** · 20th July 2011, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by big guy

I hear you all and seen much of the glow plug debate.
Not until a trained engineer has explained it to me, have I taken the time to always start on plugs, I even wait for the Navara glow plugs to pre-heat.
My wife on the other hand in the Golf is always in a hurry and just gets in and goes.
At least I try.

With the petrol thing, I admit I often put a litre in the tank with the petrol and was fine.
As far as doing damage, I will not put my name to it but surely can't do any worse than injector cleaner?!

Give it ago and see. Those old 300 tdi's I build tough, very tough and the pumps from my info I got from the net can take it too.

Now, the crumple cups are wicked and only last week, did a friend brake another one and now will have to get another.
I will look into the glasses too, might get some for the Bar.

Cheers mate and fingers crossed it all works out.

Perhaps a battery charger would not go astray in your shed either, always very handy.

Cheers

I have also put some petrol in the tank from time to time mainly on long runs and I have seen an decrease in consumption and it has run better just like after using a good injector cleaner.

The magic number I use is 5% max and seems I have a 135ltr tank and normally put about 100 in at a fill then I put about 5ltrs in on a fill but then don't do it for a while to make sure it gets run through.

I love those crumple cups if they are what I'm thinking of.

My grand father had a set in a camping kit and are like a series of ever enlarging rings with the bottom of the smallest one (The bottom one) filled in and all lock to the outside of the next to make a cup (I think that would explain it) and can then be pushed down flat for storage.

If that's them I would love to know where to get them as well.

Cheers Casper

**big guy** · 20th July 2011, 12:37 PM

Crumple Cups — ACCESSORIES -- Better Living Through Design

When I had Ben and his wife come over from Vic, I made them a coffee, I am a bit of a coffee guy.
The cups we use at home are ceramic but look like a plastic version of the take-away type crumble cup.

Cheers

**Casper** · 20th July 2011, 12:42 PM

They are nothing like I thought you were talking about but I like them

Im talking more like these but they were plastic

http://image.made-in-china.com/2f0j0...FH1688-K4-.jpg

But this is also good.

http://image.made-in-china.com/2f0j0...-SWH19561-.jpg

**Sparksdisco** · 20th July 2011, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by big guy

Crumple Cups — ACCESSORIES -- Better Living Through Design

When I had Ben and his wife come over from Vic, I made them a coffee, I am a bit of a coffee guy.
The cups we use at home are ceramic but look like a plastic version of the take-away type crumble cup.

Cheers

They look like Very cool cups

will have to get some myself.

**Young Angus** · 21st July 2011, 11:05 AM

Those crumple cups are the coolest cups around...Franks coffee was pretty great too

**big guy** · 21st July 2011, 09:15 PM

Now, how is the car shaping up? Sorted it out ?

**Young Angus** · 22nd July 2011, 05:02 AM

Haha so what if we were getting a bit off topic

Car is okay now, I got the RACV to come and test the battery under warranty and a bloke came out but he didn't seem like he knew what I was doing...he was more interested in asking me about Discos because I think he'd seen one he liked that was cheap. Get this, he asked me what I thought about a Disco like mine that he saw for $3500...I said "mate you work for the RACV you should know how much trouble a cheap car can get you into!!! Then he proceeded to tell me that he didn't have the type of battery my Land Rover needed anyway even if it was deemed damaged!!!!#$#@%$@ So the upshot of it was (I think) that he said I should take it for a drive and if after another good charge it still plays up he'll come back with the right battery and replace it...but I got the vibe that if he had the right battery he would have just replaced it then and there...very vague guy, but at least he ran the tester across the battery and even though the little window in the top of it was "black" not "green" as it should be he said it was reading as still okay.

Took it to rehearsal last night which was a half hour drive and then when I got back in four hours later to come home it was fine so hopefully that means the battery is actually okay.

As for the noise I was hearing that didn't happen again, so I'm just going to make sure I turn off the LPG a minute or so before I get to wherever I'm going so as to make sure it's all burnt up and never start it with the LPG turned on...from what I've been able to grasp about the LPG system with my limited knowledge this should hopefully avoid any liquid LPG making its way into the combustion chamber. I hope Bee Utey can confirm if this is the correct way to avoid this happening again until I can get his mod on the converter to fix it up properly.

**big guy** · 22nd July 2011, 05:08 PM

Ben
Thats good and bad.
I am sure the battery is not up to it.
Just call him back in 2 weeks and get him to up-spec it anyhow.
I was in a hurry when they installed and never checked till later.
Its under warranty and get a 600cca and be done with it, you don't want to think every time you get in "Oh I wonder if it will start?". Thats why you bought mine as most things were done very recently.

Peace of mind is worth it.

happy touring mate.

**B92 8NW** · 22nd July 2011, 05:25 PM

Don't get an RACV battery. Whilst I think it's a great idea if you're stranded, I reckon you pay a premium and usually get a battery that is under spec and not the best quality.

There's a website advertising here doing Optima D34Ms for $275 shipped or do an Ebay search for Fullriver HC65. I have the latter and it is brilliant. Repco have 20% off with RACV card at the moment, I saw a D34 yellow top for $355, might pay to ask if the discount extends to optima batteries but thats a good saving.

**Young Angus** · 23rd July 2011, 09:10 AM

Well there you go I just learned what a deep cycle battery is for the first time...there seem to be a few different Optima batteries, is the D34M just the one that fits in the Disco? Are the blue ones the best out of that range...they kind of all sound like they are very similar between the blue, yellow and red ones on the website...?

I agree Frank, I'd much rather just have a top of the range battery that I know won't let me down. The starter that's in there is actually a 600CCA while the secondary one is 525CCA. Took it for another drive last night and it again started with no hassles at all so all is okay for now but I'd still like a replacement because the little window on the top of the battery is black...unless it's a very VERY dark green.

The secondary batter is a Super Charge.

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