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    Question good idea or am I crazy????

    greetings to all you people in the know, I am after an honest answer to the eternal question, is a disco one a realistic daily driver?

    I currently have a 1991 classic, which is my play car, and a (sorry) Prado on lpg to go to work and back, costs $45 a week, and is very handy when we have visitors from overseas as we can all go out for the day in one car (its an 8 seater), but the extra seats aren't used regularly, the boot is usually full of dogs! The wife has a 200tdi defender and does about 2000kms a year, so performance isn't an issue for her.

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    Am I Crazy?

    baby makes three and its no longer realistic to run 3 cars, thinking of getting rid of Rangie and the prado and replacing both with a 300tdi 7 seat series 1 disco (same wheels as the deefer then), from the forum posts fuel economy looks fine its just the daily driver thing I'd like to check, I understand the forum attracts all the mechanical problems there can be so hundreds of pages of problems isn't an indicator of individual vehicles, its just that in 4 years prado has only stopped twice (100 000kms), the 2 rovers not at all, though they do far fewer kms, are they just unusual?
    Also use prado for towing 1.5 tonne van, done it with deefer to, but it was hard work on the hills, is 300tdi better than 200, or more tunable, again reliability is everything here, not looking for land speed records, just to keep up with traffic most of the time.

    last thing, been looking at the usual suspects (ebay, carsales, trading post etc) and haven't seen a single 7 seat manual 300tdi, do they exist or would I be better adding the jump seats afterwards, seen on the forum it can be done fairly easily.

    sorry for the rambling post but wanted to give all the info, thanks in advance for any info you can give me.

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    my disco one has been my daily driver for the last five years no problems at all, from a five minute trip down the road to a month long road trip all over the place.
    all the power I have ever needed stock standard from towing excavators, car trailers, boats, pulling out bogged toyotas. full history from new 256thou kms, wouldnt ever replace the old girl

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    You're not crazy at all! A Disco, in this case an auto would be perfect for a daily driver. I have a 300TDI Disco and the only thing that annoys me about city driving is it's a manual. I'm fine with the manual because I do a lot of off roading, but one of the reasons I bought a Disco over a Defender (which is really my dream!) is because it's such an ideal vehicle for both city and off road. The medium size of a Disco is great for around the city, but still has a decent luggage area, etc.

    In my opinion, most of the problems of the 300TDI (including all problems I've had) are largely due to poor servicing by previous owner and a lot of 4x4'ing - which in turns requires more servicing. A well serviced 300TDI is great. If you check the highest milage thread, there are a few around 1,000,000kms!! No TD5 or other has made it that far yet. I just think those people are immaculate about their service schedule.

    And yes, fuel economy of a Disco TDI around city should be ~10L/100kms imo.
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    [/QUOTE]You're not crazy at all!

    . If you check the highest milage thread, there are a few around 1,000,000kms!! No TD5 or other has made it that far yet. I just think those people are immaculate about their service schedule.

    And yes, fuel economy of a Disco TDI around city should be ~10L/100kms imo.
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    thats what I wanted to hear, I'm sure you all knew that already!, The reason I'm after a manual is my daily drive is mostly motorway (or hold ups depending on the day), and personal choice, just prefer to stir the lever myself (Rangie is auto, would love him to be manual), and from what I've read here its easier to get a van up a hill with a manual box.

    the longer term plan is for some longer type trips to explore this great country and I don't want to get there and not have a landy to go off road in, the prado's ok, but its a prado!

    saw the long lived motor thread, think a million kms should just about see me out, should still do that with a little lift (2" spring) and a couple of lockers (thinking 31" play tyres and standard size for school days),

    decent history is a must I think, change turbo hoses for silicon and flush rad, maybe a better intercooler and a pump tweak, what else would be good preventative maintenance, things that might not be on the standard service schedule?

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    Things that are NOT on the service schedule:
    1. Replace radiator expansion tank with new white coloured version (<$100 for part)
    2. Consider a new Elring head gasket every 200,000kms. Plenty of people make it past this, but there are also plenty of people recommend it as a precaution if you're doing long/remote trips/towing. (maybe a few hundred for all parts, labour is a large variant. Get a few quotes or DIY).
    3. If you're tweaking pump and other mods, an EGT gauge + low coolant alarm would be wise. (est. $150 for parts).
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    Go for an Auto 300TDi, much better off the mark in traffic and heaps better off-road, manuals would be a PIA in traffic and you would be replacing clutch components regularly, regards Frank.

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    all for the disco as a daily driver! and I also prefer the manual version, but as you say - personal choice!
    really check your cooling system in the 300tdi though and replace thermostat as well as getting an engine saver overheating/low coolant alarm - at least for the disco you're planning to take out of the city! (the standard temp sensor is a joke!)

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    As others have said. A 300Tdi disco is an economical and practical DD vehicle, if very slow...

    Ours is a '97 manual. No problems in traffic with a manual like Frank suggested. We get 8-9 L/100km from ours.

    They do blow head gaskets at ~250k km (ours went at 260k km). The temp guage is binary, it only has two settings: "everything's fine" and "your engine is stuffed", so it is a good idea to replace it with an aftermarket one.

    I wouldn't expect more than 400k km out of the engine.

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    The temp guage is binary, it only has two settings: "everything's fine" and "your engine is stuffed", so it is a good idea to replace it with an aftermarket one.
    this is pretty true so ASAP FIT AN ENGINE MONITOR !!!!!!!!!! cant stress that enough it can and does save you $1000's.
    okay my '95 is a daily driver and is the first landie i have owned or in fact driven and my IMHO is if you get a manual you have to keep the tacho needle between 2000 and 3000 this keeps it on the turbo and going well, off turbo it is sluggish. It will return at least 10l/100klm around town and 8.6l/100klm on the highway at 100 without tweaks

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    Thanks so much for all the replies people, heard there was an issue with head gaskets, will add that as a 200,000 service item,

    you've all got me thinking about the auto option, but part of me will still want the manual, so think that might be the way to go, I've driven the defender to work, and actually enjoyed it!!!!!........but that might just be everyone getting out of my way!

    this thread is going to become my list of things to do straight away so anything else please pass it this way, especially anything else for towing, doesn't happen every day but we go out to where the hills are when we go, and the last thing anyone needs is to get stuck, especially when everyone else has patrols and is waiting for it to happen (although so far its 1 dead patrol to 0 dead rovers, touch wood)

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