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    Question V8 D1 Cuts out intermittently

    3 months ago my Disco started cutting out occasionally, usually in city traffic. It was suggested to me that a likely culprit was the ignition module, so I replaced it, and the problem went away - until this week. Today it stalled several times in a 30km trip. Sometimes it restarted immediately but only ran for 10 seconds or so. It did it on both gas and petrol. Sometimes it turned over and failed to start. Always, so far, it has eventually run and got me home.

    I don't have a clue whether it's electrics or fuel - I guess electrics but I really don't know. It's a 3.9 with the original Lucas dizzy - and a 3 month old ignition module.

    Any ideas? Recommendations as to to whom I should take it for diagnosis? Intermittent problems are frustrating. I'm in Warrandyte Vic.

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    It"s most likely the ignition, check all the electrical connectors around the ignition coil and module, make sure they are all on tightly.

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    When you fitted the ignition module did you also smear the heat dissipating compound onto the back? They last longer with this applied (or so I'm told) which is why most manufacturers provide a small sachet with each module when you buy it.

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    Check your coil connections, and others too.
    I had a similar problem, and it ended up being one of the terminal connectors loose and in basics, disconnecting itself. Sometimes it would right itself quickly, other times it'd frustrate the hell out of me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by streaky View Post
    When you fitted the ignition module did you also smear the heat dissipating compound onto the back? They last longer with this applied (or so I'm told) which is why most manufacturers provide a small sachet with each module when you buy it.
    No, I didn't. I will get some and add it, I suppose. At $150 I would like it to last. But.. it's beside the coil and next to the radiator at the front of the engine, in the airflow I guess. I would hope that it doesn't get that hot.

    Thanks for the heads up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chops View Post
    Check your coil connections, and others too.
    I had a similar problem, and it ended up being one of the terminal connectors loose and in basics, disconnecting itself. Sometimes it would right itself quickly, other times it'd frustrate the hell out of me.
    Thanks Chops, and bee-utey too. Connections look OK, but... there was an earthing strap floating around! The bundle coming from the dizzy to the coil and ignition module inclues an earthing strap, has a bolt in it but not screwed into anything - and I can't immediately see a threaded hole it's supposed to live in. Must be somewhere in the vicinity of the jack/chock/power steering reservoir. In the absence of info about the right hole I'll make my own - but maybe someone can look under their late D1 bonnet?

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    Replaced module, OK for now..

    I could find nothing that looked like a loose connection, and the earthing strap was clearly nothing to do with the problem - at least earthing it didn't fix the problem. So I replaced the 3 month old ignition module. We now have an immediate fix, but I suppose it remains to be seen whether we have a long term solution.

    The good news is the price. The previous one was Lucas from Range Rov, and cost me $110. The new one was $55 + $9 postage from British4wd. Ordered on Saturday, arrived Tuesday.

    So now I have two supposedly dud modules - the Lucas and the original. I'd like to get them tested - anyone know how to get that done?

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    I suggest you bin the old ones, OEM and aftermarket ignition modules have a habit of dropping dead at inconvenient moments. I developed a Bosch alternative which is considerably more reliable.

    Thread here:

    Lucas ignition amplifier replacement by Bosch 024

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    S/H Bosch?

    Quote Originally Posted by bee utey View Post
    I suggest you bin the old ones, OEM and aftermarket ignition modules have a habit of dropping dead at inconvenient moments. I developed a Bosch alternative which is considerably more reliable.

    Thread here:

    Lucas ignition amplifier replacement by Bosch 024
    I was more interested in confirming that they are stuffed than reusing. I think of solid state devices as being inherently reliable (not talking cars), so I found it strange that a new one would fail after 3 months. However, having read the older posts by you and others I understand that this is not an uncommon problem with Rovers, and you have found that your Bosch alternative fixes it. Very enterprising btw, and great piccies, well explained.

    So, you think that next time this thing fails I should convert to a s/h Bosch?

    I love the car, but other electronic bits are problems. The cruise control is cactus and new ones appear not to be available. Range Rov supplied and fitted a s/h ecu which worked for six months. And the electric rear windows mostly don't work, obviously an ecu issue. I'll search this site..

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    The only way to test a module in a real world situation is to install it and wait for it to fail in an embarrassing situation.
    New or second hand, the Bosch module is better than a new Lucas one. It is something you can purchase new, Burson's sell them for under $80 retail, less for trade. The new Bosch coils on the other hand aren't as good as the old ones so you either use your old one or a suitable used one as mentioned in the thread.

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