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    Unhappy Shoot me I've purchased a lemon!! DOH!!

    Hey All,

    Having some sad times at the moment and would be really gratefully for any help and advise.

    Will try and keep short...bought a 96 300tdi 290K...2 weeks ago to travel oz in. Looked sounded an felt fine on test drive but the gears where clunky but careful slow changes seemed to help so I bought it....

    Since then this is what has happened...

    Head Gasket failed forcing compression in to coolant. Overheating and then coolant streaming out of cap

    Battery dead

    Aircon compressor bearing REALLY loud!

    Lights intermittent brakes sides etc.

    Oil leak at the gearbox side off transfer case

    Power steering sqeaks slightly

    Gears really gudder and clunk if I'm not careful with the clutch and the peddle seems to judder when depressed.

    .............Ok so theses are the problems and this is what I've done.

    Lights fix

    Battery replaced

    Rinsed and shook radiator, flushed and back flushed all pipes, block and matrix until clear (cooling system was filthy with brown shiz!)

    In process of ordering and replacing bearing in compressor wheel

    Head Gasket replaced with a friend. Skimmed, pressure test, reseat, cleaned block and follow torques and rave manual to the letter.

    Oil, Oil filter, thermostat and airfilter replaced

    Temp sits below half up hills and under load so all good there

    So heres the main problem that I can't seem to google an answer for.

    When I start the engine from cold theres large amounts of black and then white/blue smoke and it STINKS of diesel or at least I think it's diesel. The white smoke settles after a minute or so but the smell is still very strong. It will blow smoke when I press accelerator and there is also black smoke randomly coming out when driving. I've done 200km since head was replaced. I'm not convinced that the valve clearance have been done properly as my mate seemed to think they where fine :-/ I wasn't around when this happened so just thought I'd mention it. No water in oil sump, or filler cap and no dripping of water from exhaust which is a relief. Ticks over nicely, doesn't seem to run rough thro the revs. Oil filler cap has the moves like jagger but doesn't get blown off but you can feel a very slight chuffing but no visible smoke.

    It seems to pull away very slow at low revs then the turbo kicks in and it seems to accelrate well, then when the revs get to between 4200-5000 it seems to not want to pull hard. Not sure if this is normal as this is the first Disco I've drove.

    So many problems, so little cash to fix them with.

    Any ideas to the smoking. I'm Spending every spare second trying to get this beast back in good form

    If I do get to the bottom of all this I do intend on updating this thread so that hopefully someone else can benefit.

    Thank

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    Sounds like your timing may be retarded. Did you touch the timing belt?

    (but make sure you check the valve clearances).

    MR automotive should be able to sort it for you if you have the $$$.

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    Getting the timing belt done is high on my priority list but wasn't even checed when we done the head replacement.

    The smoke was non existent before the head was replace just overheating issue. No exhaust symptoms.

    I very much a beginner when it come to mechanics but I was under the impression that when a timing belt fails it FAILS and roots your engine completely?

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    Im hoping to do the clearance in the next day or so but need to make sure I'm 100% sure on how to do it before I commit. Got a few threads bookmarked and gonna read through RAVE a few times

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    Are you sure there was no black smoke on startup before?

    300tdi engines all blow a puff of black smoke as they are started.

    1973 Series III LWB 1983 - 2006
    1998 300 Tdi Defender Trayback 2006 - often fitted with a Trayon slide-on camper.

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    If the poor thing hasnt done it by 4K, pushing it to 5 wont help any,,,
    especially if the timing is suspect
    "How long since you've visited The Good Oil?"

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    When i first went to look at it the engine was cold and i checked the exhaust for smoke and smell but it didn't have any from what I could see. I've had a few diesel before that always blew a bit of black when first starting but this seems to be quite a lot.

    So it's normal for the pulling power to drop at higher revs. I'm just going off a Punto turbo diesel that had pull all the way through the rpm range.

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    A lemon at 17 years old and 290,000km - I don't think so - you have just purchased an old worn out vehicle. There will always be an expectation to have to spend some big dollars sooner or later on a vehicle of this age.

    Good luck though - you nee to fix what needs doing now and leave those things that can reasonably be left to be a work in progress.

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    Hey Garry,

    I do hope your right. Such a shame the previous owner neglected her so bad. Shes had a new paint job and interior clean before I got my hands on her just a shame the cash wasn't spent on the important stuff.

    She'll come good I'm sure

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    "...Head Gasket replaced with a friend. Skimmed, pressure test, reseat, cleaned block and follow torques and rave manual to the letter...."


    - There's your problem, using a friend instead of a new gasket...
    -- After being skimmed, pressurised cleaned out and talked into submission.... no wonder you've got problems !

    Wot Isuzu sed... sure you have'nt moved your timing (belt) by even one notch ?


    You have'nt bought a lemon, merely paid too much for what you've got. - I know the feeling , so not in a position to take the shot.

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