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Just thought of another reason it could have worse than normal lag (thanks to "workingonit" post 10), check the turbo boost diaphragm in the top rear of the Injector pump. Mine had a hole in it and the lag was bad, even with an auto box, Regards Frank.
Have you got shares in Dexron II Frank?
I couldn't get rid of my auto quick enough when I had a Tdi, didn't match the engine at all IMO.
Cheers
Will
I wouldn't have a manual in any vehicle on or off road, Autos are so far ahead of manuals, I can use as a manual if I want or not, you can't do that with a manual and then you have the handicap of having a clutch, Regards Frank.Quote:
Originally Posted by MR LR
At the end of the day, it's personal preference, which is what I was trying to highlight in the first line with the sarcastic comment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tank
My Tdi was auto, and I now have a V8 RRC with an LT95 and a Td5 manual Disco, don't miss a single thing about the auto, it's perfectly controlled, and I have no issues in any situation, picking 2nd low in the Rangie and just riding the throttle gently keeps revs at a forgiving level and wheelspin/slip is non-existent, unless you're in a situation where it'd lift wheels, not that my car does very often.
Some of the descents I did in the Vic high country I would have been very uncomfortable doing in the old auto.
A decent driver can get so much more out of a manual than an automatic...
Cheers
Will
Sorry for hijacking the thread OP!
I know it's personal preference, for manual or auto, but my argument is that an Auto is superior to a manual off road.Quote:
Originally Posted by MR LR
Try this in a manual, get halfway up a slippery, steep off camber track and find you HAVE to change up or down a gear in a manual, what happens, unless you have a F1 type double clutch box and the reflexes of a F1 driver, you change gear in your Landy and come to a complete stop or you lose traction, not in an Auto, same on sand dunes.
Downhill, have never had a problem with engine retardation down steep hills, put in 1st low range, hold foot lightly on brake and drive over the edge, not as low geared as a manual, but just right to stop rear end locking and sliding and possibly stalling the engine.
I towed a friends SIII and trailer up a steep slippery slope with my Disco, with me sitting halfway up the slippery slope, pulled of with the slightest of wheel slip (Locked diffs F&R) and pulled him up to the top. If it was a manual and I have been a truck owner driver for 20+ years, so I know how to use a clutch, there is no way you would've been able to pull that vehicle up that hill, you would have lost traction before the clutch was all the way out.
I can't think of any reason why I would want to drive a clunky unreliable system as a clutch and manual gearbox over an Automatic anywhere.
I get 7 to 8 L/100klms, I can cruise all day at 100K+, I can tow heavier loads off the mark, uphill or flat better and faster than a manual.
Cost, a manual box and Auto are on a par with one another if a specialist repairs either, I would rather rebuild an Auto than LR's LT77 or R380 box and have done so.
See how many late model Land Rovers have manual boxes as standard, worldwide Auto boxes are standard and manuals an option.
Of the many 4WD's I have owned over the last 40 or so years, the ones that were the most competent and enjoyable were Auto's, 2x Ford F100 4WD auto, 1x Ford Bronco 4WD Auto, 3x Disco's, can't beat them, Regards Frank.
That almost too good to be true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tank
Dave
Check your turbo hoses, years ago I had a split in the elbow coming out of turbo into metal pipe going forward towards intercooler, caused a loss of power most noticeable on take off, trying to get into traffic, etc.
The factory figures for a 300tdi RRC were 7 litres/100km at a constant speed of 50 something mph.Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthOz
Dropping to over 10 litres/100km at a constant 75mph.
The disco pushes more air, so you'd have to drive a bit slower to make up for that. I haven't been able to find the disco catalogues.
The manuals of course do better on fuel. But don't let Frank find out.
The auto equipped 300TDi produces more HP than the manual, I cruise at just under 2500rpm which according to the GPS is a tad under 100klm/h, speedo shows 110klm/h, Regards Frank.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dougal
Have you got an official source for that? Because I can't find any specifics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tank
The 300tdi auto RRC's were the same old 265Nm and 83kw. I can't find any official information for any other 300tdi equipped vehicles.
This 97 tdi disco in the UK (auto) is the same ol 83kw: Land Rover Discovery 300 Tdi 5dr Auto 2.5