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    suspected blown head gasket

    Hello folks, I have a friend with a 300tdi disco. their head gasket is suspected to be blown. TRS was contacted to do the test to know for sure but they are not interested in checking it. I was wondering what the clear signs to check for to self diagnose before it is all pulled apart. Does anyone south of adelaide even have their own head gasket checker kit and would be happy to check the car for them?
    The hoses need to be checked for pressurization, I am assuming it is the same sort of symptoms as the td5 when the head gasket is gone in those?
    I know generally if it is suspected, it is usually the case.
    Has anyone who has fixed their own head gasket at home have any advice on things to look out for while it is being done? we did mine at home on my td5 but i am not as familiar with the 300tdi engines. I know the head will need to be checked as well for cracks and warping.
    thankyou in advance fellow landrovians

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    AULRO member Big Jon has a garage at Mitcham, ph 8271 3949, don't know if that's sufficiently South for you. 300TDi head gaskets are pretty easy to change as there is no overhead camshaft, just pushrods and rockers to adjust after the gasket is fitted.

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    thankyou bee utey I had the pleasure of meeting big jon once!! such a nice man!

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    Having done a few there are a couple of dead give aways, rock hard cooling hoses and constant expelling of coolant and stream of bubbles even when cold, gurgling in the heater core is another one.
    If the head passes a hardness test then a skim and new gaskets/bolts etc will get him back on the rd, dont overlook the condition of the radiator and viscous fan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by loanrangie View Post
    Having done a few there are a couple of dead give aways, rock hard cooling hoses and constant expelling of coolant and stream of bubbles even when cold, gurgling in the heater core is another one.
    If the head passes a hardness test then a skim and new gaskets/bolts etc will get him back on the rd, dont overlook the condition of the radiator and viscous fan.
    i thought skimming 300tdi heads was not recommended? have to set valves and everything again. if tolerances are within acceptable ranges then i would not do it.

    check block for warping too. if under 2 thou, can use the steel gasket, if between 2thou and 5 thou, can use the elring gasket. over 5 thou probably been to skim block.

    check the number of holes on the gasket. you can see a tab sticking out the side with holes in it. make sure you order one with the same number of holes.

    i did my head gasket recently. there is heaps of info on that thread. plenty of other threads regarding head gasket as well.

    if you open the expansion tank cap and watch inside it. when you start the engine, if you get lots of bubbles in there, that is one of the signs. as above people mentioned, hard hoses too.

    oil in coolant, coolant in oil.

    best get one of those tests done though which checks for combustion gases in coolant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fausto79 View Post
    i thought skimming 300tdi heads was not recommended? have to set valves and everything again. if tolerances are within acceptable ranges then i would not do it.

    check block for warping too. if under 2 thou, can use the steel gasket, if between 2thou and 5 thou, can use the elring gasket. over 5 thou probably been to skim block.

    check the number of holes on the gasket. you can see a tab sticking out the side with holes in it. make sure you order one with the same number of holes.

    i did my head gasket recently. there is heaps of info on that thread. plenty of other threads regarding head gasket as well.

    if you open the expansion tank cap and watch inside it. when you start the engine, if you get lots of bubbles in there, that is one of the signs. as above people mentioned, hard hoses too.

    oil in coolant, coolant in oil.

    best get one of those tests done though which checks for combustion gases in coolant.
    Plenty on here have had them skimmed ,valves don't need to touched unless excessive skimming require.
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    the questions that need to be answered before I answer

    Quote Originally Posted by Epic Dragon
    Has anyone who has fixed their own head gasket at home have any advice on things to look out for while it is being done?
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    Blkknight, we fixed our own head gasket on my td5 and do pretty much all of our own maintenance so pretty good on the tools and have collected most needed othrr than i need a huge torque wrench to torque up my harmonic balancer 😂 disabilities just hinder me these days

    Has anyone heard of these engines having head gasket failure without any other signs? No hard over pressurized hoses. No coolant/oil mixing which i think is uncommon in landrovers anyway. Checked fan it is in good order. Thermostat was nasty LOL but new one now in. I suspect a bleeding problem and a really good bleed might solve the problem with expansion tank raised.
    It is only over heating under load up big hills then returning to normal temp as soon as it is up the hill.
    We did try to get the head gasket check but the local place here had no interest in doing that which is extremely frustrating.
    Thankyou in advance landrovians

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    If the heater is still working at the top of a hill and the cooling system isn't pressurising excessively then i woukd first of all check the radiator for reduced flow ie get it rodded out. The tdi rad is too small anyway in hot temps ehen working hard so as little as a 10% blockage can cause the temp to rise when climbing hills. I've seen them actually overheat with a 20% blockage 😮

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    Thanks justinc, the heater blows warm now. And it has a new radiator, new expansion tank and cap and thermostat. I just gave it a really good thorough bleed and we went for a test run and it was fine, until after car was turned off, refueled and then it overheated shortly after. Im not as cluey with the 300tdi as i am the td5. No hard pressurised hoses still. Im sure its definitely air causing thr issue. Bleeding helped. Next thing is to try flush heater matrix in case of any blockage in there?

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