Will a bonnet scoop reduce heat in the engine bay?

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Originally Posted by Fausto79

getting a bit hi-tech here, but was thinking that my madman 2 has the spare wire which gets a positive signal when one of your selected parameters reaches your pre-set limits. could make some louvres with an actuator that opens and closes them as coolant temp gets to a certain range. thus allowing your engine to get to operating temp same time but then the louvres open to allow for heat dissipation and more flow. was just scared that too much airflow through rad would take longer to warm up and possibly run at cooler than normal temps. probably not though. the other advantage could be that you have an override button which could close if it's raining or when engine is off and cool.

would be much easier ways to do it but i like building stuff like that. would water ingress matter so much? providing that its not going over something electrical?

i like the idea of a louvre or scoop directly above the exhaust/turbo. that was my original plan. the get airflow around the inlet pipes to IC and also exhaust and then out the louvre. also when car if off, the heat soak around exhaust would go straight up and out.

first thing i would do is ceramic coating and bigger IC. then aluminium IC pipes. then lastly some kind of scoop or louvre.

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Ceramic coat + good quality exhuast wrap in engine bay only

The actuated vent sounds like a great idea [emoji41]

just as a follow up on my previous over technical pointless post, i just rang a ceramic coating place. he said for a double black coat on exhaust manifold and sating black single on inlet manifold, i'd be looking at between $330 to $360 + GST. for anybody interested.

i am looking at getting one of those billet turbo cartridge upgrades with the more efficient fins and ceramic coat. i have just serviced the car so would wait till next oil change is due before doing it. gives me time to save up. then after this i would install better intercooler. even though IC is probably better going in before. just too expensive for me right now. finally i would look into getting scoops or louvres if still required.

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Originally Posted by blackrangie

The actuated vent sounds like a great idea [emoji41]

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really? or is that sarcasm. i was expecting a lot of criticism and jokes at my expense for that idea

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Originally Posted by CU55TM Disco

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My Dad used to have a set of these fitted the the windscreen cowl of his RRC back in the day.


Also, I REALLY like that bonnet scoop on the rangie bonnet posted earlier!!!

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Yes, its going to be a winner that bonnet scoop, I have the same vents on side of my bonnet, will upgrade to some custom milled alloy ones when i get a chance.https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...018/01/610.jpg

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Originally Posted by Fausto79

really? or is that sarcasm. i was expecting a lot of criticism and jokes at my expense for that idea

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Really its a great idea ...as sometimes you really need a lot of venting, like heavy sand work or towing uphills

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Originally Posted by Phil B

Thanks Vern
Do you have any before/ after EGT or pre / post intercooler temps?
Very interested.
Phil

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No intercooler temps. But when i changed from my top mount to my water to air, high end egt's dropped by about 70°. Tune remained the same.
One day i might set up some guages to measure the temps

PhilipA

Genuine question:

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The efficiency of a radiator depends on the pressure drop front to back.

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Can you please explain why?

and then you post this:

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thing I did for slow going was to fit a humungous Mercedes cooling fan pushing through the RAD to replace the little aircon ones.
Regards Philip A

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The calculations to determine the efficiency of a radiator in this context, are very complex and involve a lot of variables. But 2 basic variables are the flow rates of both the fluid and the air. As you have found with your humongous fan, increase the air flow and you increase the efficiency, or transfer rate of heat from the coolant to the airflow. As another poster has stated with his electric coolant pump, he can increase the flow to the extent that he needs to control the speed of it to obtain a satisfactory operating temperature.

I don't understand the aerodynamics. Is the aim to:
Stuff more cool air in the front?
Vent more hot air out the back?

Cool air in or hot out it’s the same question, with two different purposes. I agree with how you stated your questions DiscoMick.
Mass balance is always required.
As the gas heats up the density decreases so you need to remove more volume to remove the same amount of mass (heated gas/air).
If you want to cool the radiator more effectively use the bonnet vents (not scoops) as per Clarkson and the Evo Lancer. Assist with removing the heated air from behind the radiator.
If you want to cool the engine bay put a scoop in the forward half of the bonnet (forward of the high pressure zone and in the fast moving laminar air flow) and push more air down into the engine bay to exit under the car/trans tunnel. Note the Evo design, scoop for the inter cooler. This requires forward velocity to generate the air flow.
I think the temp controlled open close vents are a great idea, particularly to increase radiator effectiveness at higher temperatures. It may also work effectively at slow road speeds due to the thermo (electric) fan pushing air through the radiator.
Why not jump the vent switch from the thermo fan? ... it’s late and I have had wine ....
Vents - utilise lower pressure on the out side to remove (let’s say suck) gas from the inside.
Scoops - use higher pressure from the outside to force (lets say blow) gas flow on the inside.
Pressure differential means high pressure gas always wants to move to a lower pressure.
I will re-read in the morning....

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

I don't understand the aerodynamics. Is the aim to:
Stuff more cool air in the front?
Vent more hot air out the back?

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Vent placement will have different effects depending on how fast you're driving. At low speed any hole above the engine will let hot air out. At high speed the best place to get rid of hot air is under the vehicle as it's a low pressure region. To enhance the low pressure zone an air dam under the bumper helps quite a lot. In between speeds is where it gets difficult.