New discovery 1 owner. 1994 ES V8 bought as project, but dash warnings!

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Originally Posted by rangieman

Simply as if they do a proper brake test they should be taking the car for a brake test drive .

Im sure any responsible tester worth their own would try a ABS stop in safe area for safety purpose`s for all concerned .
This would prove the ABS not functioning [wink11]

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OK, so how do you force the ABS to function just by doing a driving brake test? In this 3rd World country that I live in the brake tests are done on a rolling road, which they do one axel at a time, which does not force the ABS to cut in.

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Originally Posted by Old Farang

OK, so how do you force the ABS to function just by doing a driving brake test? In this 3rd World country that I live in the brake tests are done on a rolling road, which they do one axel at a time, which does not force the ABS to cut in.

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Put one wheel in the dirt and hit the brakes. The wheel in the dirt should lose traction before the others wheels still on the tarmac and you should feel the pedal pulsing. If you try this, only do so at a safe speed.

Tom.

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Originally Posted by BathurstTom

Put one wheel in the dirt and hit the brakes. The wheel in the dirt should lose traction before the others wheels still on the tarmac and you should feel the pedal pulsing. If you try this, only do so at a safe speed.

Tom.

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Yes it probably will, Tom. But I doubt very much if any testing center is going to take a car out of a city that has no gravel roads just to put one wheel off into the dirt. What I was interested in is how the testing centres do it, especially with permanent 4WD and other traction control systems or even auto locking diffs?

Hello everyone, I was talking to a guy today about the abs on my 94 V8 disco and he thought that an abs was an option on that early model. Accordingly, why would you be unable to get a blue slip rego test pass just because the dash light was on but the brakes working fine otherwise?
If you could fix all brake issues but still the warning light came on just because the system had not been reset with the T4 tool, wouldn't it be reasonable to pass the rego check? Any bush lawyers out there?
mickl

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Originally Posted by Mickl

Hello everyone, I was talking to a guy today about the abs on my 94 V8 disco and he thought that an abs was an option on that early model. Accordingly, why would you be unable to get a blue slip rego test pass just because the dash light was on but the brakes working fine otherwise?

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More to the point, why would your car have an ABS warning light if it doesn't have ABS? Also, didn't you say you had cleaned the sensors?

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Originally Posted by johntins

More to the point, why would your car have an ABS warning light if it doesn't have ABS? Also, didn't you say you had cleaned the sensors?

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The car has ABS, I have cleaned the sensors but I can't clear the warning light because I do not have the correct T4 diagnostic tool. Apparently these diagnostic tools were all removed from Land Rover dealerships a while back and do not exist anymore. They only use a 4 pin connector which is in my car, whereas the obd2 diagnostic tools have 16 or so. So I don't seem to have any option to remove the dash warning light and because of that the servo mechanic will not pass it for rego. I guess I am now looking to cheat a bit and get the dash light out, knowing that the braking system will still work.
Maybe someone knows how to do this without pulling the dash out? Or is it even possible? Or legal?
cheers, Mickl

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Originally Posted by Mickl

The car has ABS, I have cleaned the sensors but I can't clear the warning light because I do not have the correct T4 diagnostic tool. Apparently these diagnostic tools were all removed from Land Rover dealerships a while back and do not exist anymore. They only use a 4 pin connector which is in my car, whereas the obd2 diagnostic tools have 16 or so. So I don't seem to have any option to remove the dash warning light and because of that the servo mechanic will not pass it for rego. I guess I am now looking to cheat a bit and get the dash light out, knowing that the braking system will still work.
Maybe someone knows how to do this without pulling the dash out? Or is it even possible? Or legal?
cheers, Mickl

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I got no idea how to extinguish the light , but how is anyone going to know the light has been extinguished if nobody tells them.

I have been thru plenty of rego checks and never seen then try and ignite a fault in the system.

Just saying[bigwhistle][bigwhistle][bigwhistle]

Cheers Ean

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Originally Posted by Ean Austral

I got no idea how to extinguish the light , but how is anyone going to know the light has been extinguished if nobody tells them.

I have been thru plenty of rego checks and never seen then try and ignite a fault in the system.

Just saying[bigwhistle][bigwhistle][bigwhistle]

Cheers Ean

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Thanks Ean, just need to find an easy way to get that light out. I would still be confident the brakes will work well. Cheers, Mick

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Originally Posted by Mickl

Thanks Ean, just need to find an easy way to get that light out. I would still be confident the brakes will work well. Cheers, Mick

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In a previous post you stated that the brakes were "spongy", now you are saying you are confident that the brakes will still work "well". It is possible that the ABS pump needs purging, or even the whole system. But if you take it for inspection with spongy brakes, then you are asking for a reject.
The ABS is not there to make the brakes work better or otherwise, it is simply a skid control device to assist in controlling how the car can be steered if one wheel starts to skid, thereby causing loss of directional control.

If you read what I previously posted you will see that I run mine without either a fuse in for the pump(just a blown dummy one) and the lamp out of the dash. It has been years since I removed the lamp, so I do not recall just how, but it is a pretty simple matter to remove the binnacle, the hardest part being the screws that hold it in place.

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Originally Posted by Old Farang

In a previous post you stated that the brakes were "spongy", now you are saying you are confident that the brakes will still work "well". It is possible that the ABS pump needs purging, or even the whole system. But if you take it for inspection with spongy brakes, then you are asking for a reject.
The ABS is not there to make the brakes work better or otherwise, it is simply a skid control device to assist in controlling how the car can be steered if one wheel starts to skid, thereby causing loss of directional control.

If you read what I previously posted you will see that I run mine without either a fuse in for the pump(just a blown dummy one) and the lamp out of the dash. It has been years since I removed the lamp, so I do not recall just how, but it is a pretty simple matter to remove the binnacle, the hardest part being the screws that hold it in place.

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I am confident that I can deal with the spongy brake problem, it is this damn warning light that is my trouble. Resetting the system with a diagnostic tool looks like it isn't going to happen so removal of the bulb is what I might aim for. i didn't see any screws holding the binnacle down , just a silicon bead so I thought it might clip on but will investigate this more, thanks, Mickl