Thread: Advice needed...

i would check that the return spring in the master cylinder has,nt snapped. It you pull the pedal up do you get and pedal pressure?

I am sure there are more than a few nice people here who will help you with improving performance on a 300?Tdi

Originally Posted by CanM8

1999 Discovery 1 TDI manual

So basically the other day my clutch pedal wouldn't spring back up when i took my foot off it and was stuck at the floor, finally got a call from my mechanic today, he reckons it could be the clutch fork but wont be sure for certain until he takes the gearbox out estimating 8 hours labour as he hasn't really worked on too many land rovers before. He also said if I were to go ahead and repair whatever is broken, he recommended changing the clutch kit and flywheel which is fair enough. Problem is the good ol flywheel is around $1200, potentially costing me $3000 in a worst case scenario.

I feel like this is just too much to spend on the car and want to sell it but feel as if I flat out wont be able to sell it in its unrepaired state, or for a ridiculous loss (only had the car a couple months).
So guess i could repair it and sell it but have no idea how much for. I havent seen a low kms disco 1 tdi for sale so the value is really hard for me to guess, could end up losing just as much. Car has 130000kms.

So basically my questions are:
Has anyone seen recently a late year low km and in good condition disco 1 tdi for sale? how much were they chasing?
If anyone has tried selling a similar example, was it difficult to sell due to the small amount available?

I'm just really lost at to where I should go with this, only a young guy and money isn't something I can be throwing away right now

Keep the car, it has low ks and $3000 is much cheaper than paying for a new car of which may have problems of it's own and you are back where you started. The low ks on the car are worth the fix.

Originally Posted by pop058

Last D1 was made in 98 IIRC. Any references to 99 D1s are sales pitches or claims they are 99 models just because they were sold in 99.

I think the first D2 was made in September 1998.

No, not quite so. There's a bit more to it than being sold in 1999. The last D1s may have been BUILT in 1998 but some of them (mine included) have a January 1999 compliance plate. I've no idea how that comes to be, but the compliance plate speaks for itself. I wonder if it was the importers who put the compliance plate on, when the vehicles finally got here? Perhaps someone else will be able to explain the time-lag.

Originally Posted by Pcm2048

Check the clutch damper first. If it fails the clutch will go to the floor. $60 part and easy to replace. No way to check if it faulty, you just have to replace it.

Well, I'll bite! Please, what is a clutch damper?

Originally Posted by Canvas Hat

No, not quite so. There's a bit more to it than being sold in 1999. The last D1s may have been BUILT in 1998 but some of them (mine included) have a January 1999 compliance plate. I've no idea how that comes to be, but the compliance plate speaks for itself. I wonder if it was the importers who put the compliance plate on, when the vehicles finally got here? Perhaps someone else will be able to explain the time-lag.

Compliance is just that .. compliance with Aussie Rulz! .. not build date!

Read my reply on the VIN number.
Look for the last 6 digits, and just prior to those last 6 digits are the final two letters .. possibly WA on your '99 compliance plated D1.

W is the year model, A = made in Solihul(England) .. as opposed to South Africa(V) or Worldwide CKD(F)

So the last section of your VIN will read something like WA123456 if made in the UK in '97-98.

D2's will use an X at that point in VIN number for that sequence, but most if not all in Aus will be a Y in place of that

Mine was 'complianced' in 4/99 but was still built in '98.

I've done loads of TDi clutches, well I reckon maybe 6? On defenders and discos.

As said, check the hydraulics first. Pull the slave cylinder out, you will be able to see what the push rod is doing, there are a few things in the bell housing that can cause no clutch and foot to the floor, some likely some less so.

Now, a proper clutch job will be best to have:
* friction plate
* pressure cover
* release bearing
* HD clutch fork
* some of the plastic retainy things & ziplocks
* spigot bushing

For the effort of removing the box I wouldn't count any of that as spare.
You may also want to do the rear crank seal - though if not leaking it's a bit of a debate on whether to mess with it.

Flywheel refacing - yea, heard of it.... Unless you find really bad gouges, then it is just your wallet being gouged.

Now, once you replace all of that you have about a 50% chance of the hydraulic system karking it, extra pressure etc. is what I always put it down to, but a lot of times after a new clutch I find the slave or master goes. And when you replace one of those the other tends to go (it was common enough I used to pretty much buy both at the same time and replace).

Doing a clutch on the disco is not hard to do at home, I've usually gone via an engine crane in the cabin through the gearstick hole. If you are a beast you can get it done in a morning (never managed it myself, usually a day or two).
You can also use a jack underneath with an adapter.
If you don't have or can't borrow either of those you are looking at a spend of about $300.

Tips for fitting:
* align the friction plate, you are SOL if it's off as you'll never get the bugger back in
* you need to get the box level to close it up, guide rails in engine side can help. Depends on the transfer box mounts on how much of a pain this can be.

I'm down Lonsdale a few times a week, if you want I can check what might be wrong. I've got a shagged arm at the moment though which means I really can't help on doing a box (Jack hammers doing house work really messed it up).

Originally Posted by CanM8

1999 Discovery 1 TDI manual So basically the other day my clutch pedal wouldn't spring back up when i took my foot off it and was stuck at the floor, finally got a call from my mechanic today, he reckons it could be the clutch fork but wont be sure for certain until he takes the gearbox out estimating 8 hours labour as he hasn't really worked on too many land rovers before. He also said if I were to go ahead and repair whatever is broken, he recommended changing the clutch kit and flywheel which is fair enough. Problem is the good ol flywheel is around $1200, potentially costing me $3000 in a worst case scenario.I feel like this is just too much to spend on the car and want to sell it but feel as if I flat out wont be able to sell it in its unrepaired state, or for a ridiculous loss (only had the car a couple months).So guess i could repair it and sell it but have no idea how much for. I havent seen a low kms disco 1 tdi for sale so the value is really hard for me to guess, could end up losing just as much. Car has 130000kms.So basically my questions are:Has anyone seen recently a late year low km and in good condition disco 1 tdi for sale? how much were they chasing?If anyone has tried selling a similar example, was it difficult to sell due to the small amount available?I'm just really lost at to where I should go with this, only a young guy and money isn't something I can be throwing away right now

I know that it costs a lot of money to repair them if something goes wrong but my old 1997 Discovery 1 is still going strong with 338,000 km on the clock.I had the same problem at Cape Levique last year. Clutch just went to the floor & stayed there. I got back to Broome by putting the transfer box to neutral, selected my gear & crunched the transfer box back into high & limped back to Broome in 3rd gear. It was the fork which had disintegrated & it cost me $2500 to have it repaired up there. I only paid $7000 for the car but I would not part with it because it is so reliable & I trust it to go anywhere I want to go. I am currently planning another trip up the Gibb River road later this year. I have spent more than the actual cost I paid for it but most of this is age related & will probably happen to other vehicles as they age. I can honestly say that my old boy is the best vehicle I have ever owned & if you persevere with them they will almost last forever. If you go for another you will only be buying other people's problems. My advice, sort out the problems on the one you have & you will be rewarded. Someone told me that over 60% of ALL Land Rovers ever built are still on the road. That tells me something! Good luck