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    Rear pillar lights wiring advice needed

    OK, yes did a google search and couldnt find specifics, so ill ask

    My 95 D1 has the park lights located on the bumper (along with indicators). At night, I want to have the lights also display on the main pillar. I pulled the top globe out and found it had a two-element globe in it, so great for both park/brake combo.

    Problem is, I cant seem to work out how the lights operate. When I checked for power, ALL the plug pins have positive power to them directly, but are not on... makes me think that the circuit is activated when earth is switched?

    So what is the best way to wire this up? I initially was using the same coloured (red/black) wire as the bumper park, but this didnt work of course as power is already there as I mentioned.

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    95 is an update, so the pillar lights should come on. (mine do).

    So you shouldn't have to wire them up to come on, as you said, you have twin terminal globes.
    Just be 100% sure they're working, and they're the correct type too.

    There are two different twin terminal bulb types.
    The type you need have to be the BAY15D, not BA15D(there's a difference).
    The BAY15D also go by the term 1157 too.

    The difference is that the two small side posts that lock the bulb into place need to be askew from each other, not directly opposed.

    Seen both types, and it's easy to get confused.

    The other thing is to be 100% sure that the globes aren't burned out.
    Been there with my brothers D2, where it had no brake lights, and I spent hours looking for problems elsewhere, like wiring, earthing and brake switch, when the issue was both bulbs had blown.

    So you shouldn't need to wire or rewire anything.
    Arthur.

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    Thanks Arthur. I did find it strange that the unit allowed for a globe and yet not connected. I tend to also look for the complex solution so ill go back and re-check it all including bulb type.

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    Carlos
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    The other thing to check is for continuity between the terminals at the connector to the bulb holder tracks.

    Can't remember which is which, but on one side the tail light wire is red/black as you said, but on the other side I think it's Red/Orange .. or something.

    So trace the connector to those wires, and with a (hopefully you have) multimeter, check for connection between that wire and the metal track at the base of the light where it connects the bulb holder.

    You may have power at the wire, but it may not be transferring to the metal plate on the light unit.
    Arthur.

    All these discos are giving me a heart attack!

    '99 D1 300Tdi Auto ( now sold :( )
    '03 D2 Td5 Auto
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    OK, so I checked the bulb and it 'looks' ok with the offset pins, but of course will actually check the bulb tonight. If the bulbs are fine, then ill check the tracks as you suggest. Hopefully I can get this sorted relatively quickly, something that has been bothering me since I have owned it for a few years now but really never got to it until now.
    Carlos
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    quick easy check of the bulbs. coupe of lengths of wire connected to battery. Hold the earth on the main part of the body of the globe, and touch the positive cable end on each of the bottom poles.
    Arthur.

    All these discos are giving me a heart attack!

    '99 D1 300Tdi Auto ( now sold :( )
    '03 D2 Td5 Auto
    '03 D2a Td5 Auto

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    More on this... globes both work. Wires that feed into the connector that operates the park like is not present... just an empty socket. So this may have been from factory??

    I the connected that empty socket to a wire, then connected to the rear door globe Earth... worked but of course was then always on. So what cable colour goes to that socket?? Funny thing tho when connecting the bumper cable to the pillar connector it didnt turn on, so i suspect its something else going on.

    Does anyone have a photo or colour of wire i should be using?

    Cheers,
    Carlos
    1994 Land Rover Discovery 300tdi
    1963 Land Rover Series 2a 88
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    According to both the electrical circuit diagrams I have(RAVE and Haynes), the RHS feed is a Red/Black wire coming from Fuse F2 in the interior fuse box/
    And the LHS uses a Red/Orange wire coming from F8 in that same fuse panel.
    Arthur.

    All these discos are giving me a heart attack!

    '99 D1 300Tdi Auto ( now sold :( )
    '03 D2 Td5 Auto
    '03 D2a Td5 Auto

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    Yes, so pretty much what I thought given the colours on the bumper itself. I will give it another go, but I also forgot to mention that the indicators where also excluded in the pillar lights but someone in the past joined the wire from the bumper feed to the pillar plug and works well... this is the same principle I had in mind for the park lights but its been giving me the irrits!
    Carlos
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    1963 Land Rover Series 2a 88
    Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu3...BtsNIuTyGkAo5w
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    Weird!
    Unless someone's had problems with them, and thought just delete them from the setup or something.

    I had a short burst of annoying indicator failures for a short while. I think more likely just cheapo dud bulbs, as I had about 3 fail consecutively in about 3-4weeks or something like that.
    Issue was I had a lot of trouble getting the indicator bulb holder free(really tight fit) off the light unit, and you know that there's not a lot of room to get a hand in there easily.
    (D2 is better in that the light unit comes out of the body at the back of the car instead .. kind'a more work, but less if that makes sense)

    So with my indicators I made a decision to change them all to LEDs, thinking just get bulbs and replace them all.

    ... not so easy! Some worked, but the main ones didn't.
    Then I spent a fair amount of time trying to find out why.
    Needed an LED flasher unit(only found a type for the Defender), and then they all worked.

    So (nearly)all my lights are now LEDs, except for the brake/tail bulbs. Can't work out why or how to get LEDs to just plug in and replace, and I don't want to go adding resistors into the circuits either(only way I know to get them working).
    But with only 1 tail/brake LED bulb in the system it works fine. tails lights work, and brake lights work.
    When I then fit the second tail/brake LED bulb, tails work but no brake lights(and I think it's a resistance related thing).

    But, yeah, your bumper repeaters should be wired up to each pillar unit, and in the RHS pillar should also be the spare wire/loom/plug end that connects to the trailer plug. If towbar/light plug is fitted, will be connected, if no trailer setup then will just be a loose plug in the pillar.
    Arthur.

    All these discos are giving me a heart attack!

    '99 D1 300Tdi Auto ( now sold :( )
    '03 D2 Td5 Auto
    '03 D2a Td5 Auto

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