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Thread: Wandering steering after 2 inch Spring lift. Whats your thoughts guys?

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    Defender was approx 65mm between bump stops on the front
    I think the Disco 1 and RRC was approx 50-55mm

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    Quote Originally Posted by rick130 View Post
    Defender was approx 65mm between bump stops on the front
    I think the Disco 1 and RRC was approx 50-55mm
    Hence the different swivel/ stub position to achieve 3 degrees at static.

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    Smile Thank you all again. More info below

    I am getting a good picture from all the info from all you guys.

    I think I will start at the easy and less expensive end of things (I hope). I will replace all the rubbers in the front steering and suspension with neoprene replacements. Maybe I had unnoticeable wear before the lift. The next question is which ones do I need to replace?
    I will try this first before I look at the expensive cranked radius arms. They may have to wait a while.

    I did notice a slight improvement after I fitted the new TerraFirma Steering Damper, but still it wanders.

    Someone mentioned a lift in excess of 2" might be the problem. I did get a wheel arch measurement difference of 3 inch. (I ordered and paid for a 2" King Spring lift). This I measured from wheel arch to ground with same tyre and wheel combination. I thought that maybe my old springs must have been sagged 1'', so I still actually got a 2' lift compared to a new D1 or in other words, 'its original height'

    I might mention I am running HiFly Muddies 245x75x16. A cheap tyre at $200 fitted, balanced and wheel aligned at Tyrepower. These are 30.47 inches.
    I camel cut the rear arches and I do have my tyres touching a little on full lock. I hope there is enough info for you guys to make more educated comments and then I will have my work (and wallet) cut out for a while.

    Thank you all and have a beaut day - Gerry

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    Quote Originally Posted by wedgetail37 View Post
    The next question is which ones do I need to replace?
    Quote Originally Posted by rick1970
    If the usual culprits look ok (panhard bushes, radius arm bushes, tie rod ends and rear a-frame ball joint), double check alignment and check swivel preload.
    He knows his stuff mate. I would be starting with those.
    And they are the easiest and cheapest too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wedgetail37 View Post
    .... The next question is which ones do I need to replace?
    I will try this first before I look at the expensive cranked radius arms. They may have to wait a while.

    I did notice a slight improvement after I fitted the new TerraFirma Steering Damper, but still it wanders.

    Someone mentioned a lift in excess of 2" might be the problem. I did get a wheel arch measurement difference of 3 inch. (I ordered and paid for a 2" King Spring lift). This I measured from wheel arch to ground with same tyre and wheel combination. I thought that maybe my old springs must have been sagged 1'', so I still actually got a 2' lift compared to a new D1 or in other words, 'its original height'

    ....
    DAMINK already mentioned the easy ones you can do easily yourself in an hour or two at home.
    The radius arm bushes will need a good press, or a lot more work, to remove, but if you go polys they're easy to then refit(if you get a decent brand .. I've had good results with Nolathane, but many people recommend SuperPro)

    Other possible reasons for wandering could be the rear trailing arms bushes too.
    I had a lot of trouble with my RRC years back where small undulations made the car wander. Did all the usual mucking about with the front, never thought that the chassis bush end would cause so much wandering, but it did.
    I assumed that worn rears would only be noticeable on more obvious bumps(ie. not smooth undulation type imperfections).
    I reckon I changed at least 3 pairs of the rear trailing chassis bush due to wear, then finally found the old Rangie Spares modded rubber bush which made the world of difference. That also eventually wore out too, and I then went with Nolathanes all round(on the main rubbers).

    I've been also looking to redo the suspension on my D1, more so coz the shocks on the car when I got it are just crap! way too hard, and no real advantage in being so. So my primary idea is I want something like bilsteins(had them before and they ride nice).
    I went up to Les Richmond(formerly Rangie Spares years ago) and he explained some stuff.
    1/. you don't NEED a caster correction kit for a 2" lift on a D1/2. You may want one, but he reckons you don't need it.
    If all else is in good nic, then it will steer fine.

    Don't measure the suspension(lift) from the wheel arches. Measure at the bump stop(ie. clearance from bump stop rubber to the bump stop on the axle).
    I can't remember the values now, but I'm sure there is a ton of info somewhere on the net. such as here
    Arthur.

    '99 D1 300Tdi Auto
    '03 D2 Td5 Auto

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    So the info is available on this site, I measured the bump stop gap on my bog standard WA vin 98 300TDi - half fuel and standard front and rear bumpers - no extra weight at all.
    I measured from the axle plate to the tip of the rubber bump stop on each axle
    Front is 65mm
    Rear is 110mm
    1998 D1 in showroom condition, 1999 D2 TD5 with everything, 2000 P38 showroom condition.
    Freelander 2 2012
    1992 RRC sold and now pranged.

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