Thread: 300TDI manual or auto?

Originally Posted by johnd

I know the auto wouldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding but it sure is nicer to "tour" around in - go the slush box
johnd (I may be biased - I have one)

It's the 300Tdi off boost that wont pull the skin of the rice pudding, not the gear box.

must resist temptation.... must not bag autos excessivly........

go the manual, its easier and usually cheaper to fix.

Originally Posted by Blknight.aus

must resist temptation.... must not bag autos excessivly........

go the manual, its easier and usually cheaper to fix.

Unless it's bolted to a TD5 with a dual mass flywheel which cant be machined etc etc.

Im not overly a fan of autos either Dave, specially when you want to roll start the car because of a flat battery, failed starter or something like that but the ZF is damn robust and hacks a hiding if looked after and yu have very few problems with them if kept properly.

I think this is much the same with manuals, as long as they are looked after they last indeffinately but the clutch has a service life in all manuals of about half that of the life of an auto but in the modern TD5's and the like the clutch replacement costs almost as much as a change over trans.

So you get twice as far with an auto at half the cost as well as you dont wear out you left leg pushing down a pedal in city traffic.

LT77's and R380s are not without their problems, ive read plenty on having to use special oils and breaking gearboxs etc on here just as much as Ive read on here about autos so I think again they are about on par.

yep but he was asking for behind a tdi300... no dual mass.

flex plate for a tdi300 is about as much as a clutch.

I wasnt going to drag up the whole cant easily bump start, stops if you run out of oil type argument just that the cost of a rebuild for a manual is usually less than an auto....

Im pretty certain that by now even the poor improvished starving Ethiopians (without internet access) know how I feel about autos.

I choose autos, mainly because I'm a lazy driver and off-road on 99% of situations, it just makes life much easier. After driving an auto for nearly 10 years off-road it takes some getting usede to again and re-learning of some skills too. Downhill in autos suck, but you learn how to drive it (transmission handbrake helps on really steep hills I find, just don't overuse it or you'll be up for new brake shoes in no time ).

At the end of the day, it's a personal choice. I have a manual atm but that was not by choice more the cheap price of the Rangie.

Trav (normally a proud auto driver )

So an autobox stops working if it runs out of oil.
How long would a manual tranny run if it also runs out of oil?
Ditto, engine?
Are auto trannies more prone to losing oil than other gizmos that also need oil to run?

Originally Posted by PSi

So an autobox stops working if it runs out of oil.
How long would a manual tranny run if it also runs out of oil?
Ditto, engine?
Are auto trannies more prone to losing oil than other gizmos that also need oil to run?

Auto's run external oil coolers, this results in more connections and more likely to result in a leak.

Originally Posted by PSi

So an autobox stops working if it runs out of oil.
How long would a manual tranny run if it also runs out of oil?
Ditto, engine?
Are auto trannies more prone to losing oil than other gizmos that also need oil to run?

Originally Posted by slug_burner

Auto's run external oil coolers, this results in more connections and more likely to result in a leak.

They are more likely to run out of oil than a manual but Ive had mine for 5 years and not yet had a trans leak......everything else has leaked but not the trans.

They dont like water ingression so you need to keep water away from the insides but again Ive done plenty of deep crossings and no problem yet.

Manuals will last considerably longer than an auto minus oil but neither like it.

By the way, LR recomend replacing 300Tdi flywheel on doing a clutch over machining the flywheel and the last price I heard on that was around $600 for the flywheel, the same for a 300tdi flex plate but with the flex plate, if it's fitted properly in the first place you wont have to replace it.