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My very early update (delivered Apr 94) never had the oil slinger fitted. The problem was just starting to show up when I sold it in 2006 with just 100,000km on it - was looking at options at the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by justinc
So not all fitted and I suspect most were not. The problem also applied to earlier gearbox/transfer case variations.
Garry
Just as an example, a 145K R380 from a wrecked 1995 110 that we recently sold (Fitted now to Defender=1st's 130) I fitted an oil slinger to when it was just 40K old. We had a look before it went into Adrians 130 and it was as new:)
JC
Thanks for the info.
Ok so exactly what do I look for or ask the owner about? Can I see this oil slinger and if so where is it located? Does anyone have any pictures? justinc you mention that you can access the PTO cover to verify if the update has been done. Exactly what would I be looking for or asking about. Thanks again you guys are a wealth of information.
Chris
Hi Chris,Quote:
Originally Posted by vk2icj
The PTO cover is a round ally cover plate, about 200mm diameter at the rear of the Transfer case. undo the bolts, and the outer cover will come off with a little prising as it is usually glued on with a silicon type sealant. You then can see if an oil sliger is fitted as it will be a aluminium plate completely filling the hole basically with a small slot at 12 o'clock. If the slinger isn't there, you should be able to see the splines for the PTO engagement sleeve at the end of the input gear. If you look inside that, you can see the condition of the mainshaft splines and input gear splines by rotating the handbrake drum side to side, you can then see how much wear there is by how far the gear rotates before the shaft moves. Alternatively, and the best inspection method by far, is to put the transfer case in neutral, remove the rear bearing plate (Sandwiched between the PTO cover and the transfer case) and remove the gear altogether by pulling and rotating. Then you can really see if it and the mainshaft is in good nick, and whether it has any holes drilled etc etc.
JC
Thank you for the explanation Justin, now I have to wait to be there and see you done the inspection in "Rustic" :D
These are pics of the oil feed plate etc when I inspected mine.
PTO cover
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...009/03/210.jpg
Bearing holder thingo - this was an absolute mongrel to remove. It was glued on extremely well.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...009/03/211.jpg
Oil feed plate
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...009/03/212.jpg
Output splines good as new
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...009/03/213.jpg
Input gear good as new
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...009/03/214.jpg
Input gear
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...009/03/167.jpg
Geeze that looks like a big job for a pre purchase inspection lol is there no easier way to tell? Is this something that can be done on the side of the road quick (well hour or so) and then put back together with the owner being ok with?
Actually, the owner being a mech must have some idea what they are like, IE if the drivetrain backlash is excessive in a pre 1996MY D1 or Defender then I would Immediately suspect the mainshaft splines. Why not ask him if he has had a look, or would he mind removing the cover and letting you know what they are like? After all, he wants to sell the vehicle doesn't he? And it is perfectly reasonable for you to want to know what they are like as it is such an expensive thing to rectify.Quote:
Originally Posted by vk2icj
JC
If you have a closer look at the pictures your question will be answered ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by vk2icj
Well actually it was the car park at work.
For someone who knows what they are doing then it can be done in less than an hour so long as the bearing holder plate thing is reasonably easy to remove as I found that to be the hardest thing to remove. I actually tried three times over a few separate times to remove it. In the end getting it free with a hammer and lump of hardwood.
Although as JC said, the seller is a mechanic. Ask him to strip it and send you photos or even do it and have it in bits for when you go over.
My splines let go at about 110k km despite having been dealer serviced. This was followed by the input gear and laygear going at about 150k km. The later was most likely due to some towing in 5th.