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    New heart and drive for D2

    So after finding a rather large oil leak with the D2 today (I no longer need rust protection there is that much oil on the car) I think I will stop stuffing around with repairs and get the 4.0l V8 rebuilt and stroked to 5.0l with a rebuilt transfer case with CDL.

    Can anyone recomend a good company to have this work done in QLD or would I be better off taking the car interstate for this work?

    Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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    500HP SHORT MOTOR

    5.0 LT STEPPED LINER
    SHORT MOTOR
    FORGED PISTONS 10 - 1 COMP
    TOTAL SEAL RINGS
    BILLET 6 INCH STEEL RODS
    3.4 INCH STROKER CRANK
    DUAL THRUST MAIN BEARINGS
    $6900.00
    500HP SHORT MOTOR



    This is one I have been looking at previously.

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    I really like the idea of the 5 litre engine as a conversion option for the under powered 4L engines in Disco's but maybe something that is more aimed as a stump puller which would suit off road driving rather then a out and out high revving top end horspower monster.

    Chris has said he would also add CDL at the same time so chances are he is planning to use the new 'big engine' for off road usage rather then drag racing, sounds like he is really after a stump puller as well.

    One question how can any engine builder claim 500 hp for a short engine?

    In my experience of getting high horsepower engines built most of the gains other then adding cubic inches is usually in cylinder head work which often takes up the most time and effort to achieve the right results. Its hard to imagine standard Rover heads allowing such gains even with the size and compression increase spoken off, unless your bolting on a blower then you wouldn't have such high compression or a wild cam.

    I'm more then happy to stand corrected if someone can explain to me how this works.

    cheers,
    Terry

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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryO View Post

    One question how can any engine builder claim 500 hp for a short engine?

    Its hard to imagine standard Rover heads allowing such gains even with the size and compression increase spoken off, unless your bolting on a blower then you wouldn't have such high compression or a wild cam.
    Aftermarket heads?
    http://www.triumphroverspares.com.au...0&productid=70

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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryO View Post
    I really like the idea of the 5 litre engine as a conversion option for the under powered 4L engines in Disco's but maybe something that is more aimed as a stump puller which would suit off road driving rather then a out and out high revving top end horspower monster.

    Chris has said he would also add CDL at the same time so chances are he is planning to use the new 'big engine' for off road usage rather then drag racing, sounds like he is really after a stump puller as well.

    One question how can any engine builder claim 500 hp for a short engine?

    In my experience of getting high horsepower engines built most of the gains other then adding cubic inches is usually in cylinder head work which often takes up the most time and effort to achieve the right results. Its hard to imagine standard Rover heads allowing such gains even with the size and compression increase spoken off, unless your bolting on a blower then you wouldn't have such high compression or a wild cam.

    I'm more then happy to stand corrected if someone can explain to me how this works.

    cheers,
    Terry
    I use my D2 almost every day for a variety of uses, Monday to Friday it is a run around car for work and weekends it gets used a bit better either;

    4wding (Usually atleast once per month)
    Towing Jetski either to Somerset or Rainbow Bay
    Soon to be towing 20' ski boat out to Somerset
    Towing Dual Axle Trailer for camping etc. with the wife and kids

    I am after a motor that has more power than the 4.0l, however lots of torque for offroad use as this is still the main reason I bought the Disco and in turn easier towing especially on hills etc. with the ski boat.

    Any ideas on the best setups would be great, due to the money involved I would like to get this right the first time.

    Is there a Rover V8 Diesel that would be a relatively simple swap?

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    I think TRS are saying with the right heads and cam this short motor is capable of producing and handling 500hp.

    This motor could be a very strong toquey motor with right head and cam combination and I would think that TRS are probably the people to talk to about what that combination should be. Even if the peak output is only 300hp this would be much better than standard

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    Hey Chris,

    A good recoed top hat 4.6 long engine from TRS might be the go just over half the price of the short 5L yet still has a very healthy increase in torque and HP over the standard 4L.

    Edited ...(I should have mentioned that they take your old 4L Thor long engine as an exchange or it costs more.)

    If you call them make sure you speak with Phil he is very helpful.

    cheers,
    Terry
    Last edited by TerryO; 28th April 2010 at 04:16 PM. Reason: Forgot to mention details

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    The email I got from TRS said, with the 4.9 stroker kit,
    a 25% increase in torque is expected,,


    sort of makes sense if you increase the capacity by 25%
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    A short motor - even a 5 litre one - will not produce 500 hp on its own obviously. You need the right cam and, most importantly so far as the Rover V8 is concerned, top of the line cylinder heads. Not stage 4 Rover heads, nor Real Steel's new heads, nor even Buick 300 heads, though the latter will yield over 400 bhp if worked right. It's either Wildcats which also require the matching inlet manifolds and cost several thousands more (and which TRS run on their racing TR8), or the yet to be released but nearing finalisation new TA heads based on the their successful Buick V6 performance heads.

    Apparently TRS has taken delivery of the prototypes of the TA heads and have stitched up a deal to distribute them once they reach the production stage. Prices of US$4000 a pair have been mentioned on the BritishV8 Owners forum.

    My recommendation is a bulletproof 4 bolt ductile top hat 4.6 long engine from Turner Engineering already fitted with their gas flowed heads and new rocker gear and a high torque cam - should give you about 320 ftlb.

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