Thread: Hilux diff conversion

Would it not have been easier to get a Dana 60/70/or 80 built, plus would have been just as strong with the stock axles and CVs? The cost would probably be similar.

i think the new locker design is great to and yes people will always complain ,but i have not ditched or abused ARB at all only made a simple request and have been shot down considerably ,and thought ARB would have provisions for a few extras but i was wrong all i did was post my findings and will continue to post my findings in other topics there was no sign in my eyes of me complaining i was just pointing out the difference in price and yes i will still be saving a $1000 by buying overseas

cheers Kelvin

Originally Posted by isuzurover

Daniel - you should know by now that people will ALWAYS complain

I think the new locker design is great!

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Originally Posted by disco_thrasher

i think the new locker design is great to and yes people will always complain ,but i have not ditched or abused ARB at all only made a simple request and have been shot down considerably ,and thought ARB would have provisions for a few extras but i was wrong all i did was post my findings and will continue to post my findings in other topics there was no sign in my eyes of me complaining i was just pointing out the difference in price and yes i will still be saving a $1000 by buying overseas

cheers Kelvin

Kelvin - I was in no way directing that at you - just a comment in general - Daniel has had had to endure heaps of ARB bashing on outerlimits...

Personally I don't see why someone in AU can't get a locker assembled with their choice of side gears by ARB. Especially a common locker like the toyota 8" which would probably be one of the most common lockers assembled (for the AU market anyway). Even paying additional labour charges it wouldn't be much extra $$$.

i agree

Originally Posted by isuzurover

Personally I don't see why someone in AU can't get a locker assembled with their choice of side gears by ARB. Especially a common locker like the toyota 8" which would probably be one of the most common lockers assembled (for the AU market anyway). Even paying additional labour charges it wouldn't be much extra $$$.

Ok so lets get off the ARB bashing trail and back OT, they are a business interested in the mass market and im sure you could do alot of things in 3 minutes at their factory with the resources they have but that is not their business,

So from the last i can gather you have decided to retain your landrover housings and doing the toyo high pinion change. My next question therefore is obviously you are going to be doing a huge amount of bracing to the fairly weak LR housings? Hendrik and i can testify to their spaghetti characteristics from what i would consider not to be huge impacts.

Also another thought i had about this is by retaining these housings you will be forced to increase your track via the use of a wheel spacer/big offset rims combo?

The 3 a-frame from the rangey is a good starting point but not the strongest option. Potentially using this as inspiration and fabricating from scratch a beefed up version with longer arms etc? Or potentially ditching it and looking at a triangulated four link and no panhards?

Im still a supporter of the GU patrol housings option. These will increase your track, a much stronger housings with more after market goodies around. This will also then give you the option of adding portals to them relatively easy down the track. Another thought is most of the teams at tuff truck will lend each with other a hand with breakages/parts etc, and these housings are a very popular choice. 2010 saw competitors plundering spectator cars for parts.

Im also keen to hear your plans for the front end. Im imagining words like full hydro steer are being tossed around?

Sorry to throw all this at you but im excited that a local is undertaking such a huge build and i hope that by asking all these questions it wont just satisfy my curiosity but may also give you another perspective

Piece of cake to brace a rover housing:

that would be ok in a road car, but kelvin is lookin at 37-40 tires in a truggy. Yes bracing the difs is easy enough i am getting ready to do exactly that to mine at the moment but, they would need to be done both top and bottom with a substantial dif gaurd. Plus what do you do on the outer ends of the dif past the spring perches? Superior do good kits for hilux's etc,

Originally Posted by that_kid

that would be ok in a road car, but kelvin is lookin at 37-40 tires in a truggy. Yes bracing the difs is easy enough i am getting ready to do exactly that to mine at the moment but, they would need to be done both top and bottom with a substantial dif gaurd. Plus what do you do on the outer ends of the dif past the spring perches? Superior do good kits for hilux's etc,

I can't see tyre size making much difference to whether they bend or not. ISUZU powered landies seem the most prone to bending housings because of weight. Btw - the diff pan on that is 8 mm thick - I think it is strong enough

Most comp landies don't even run that much bracing.

There is no reason you cannot extend the bracing out to the flanges if you wish.