It sounds to me like the auto went into limp mode
At that depth it may have got water into the engine ECU too.
Good thing they oil into them so it shoud be OK
The door seals being cut at the bottom don't help in this situation either![]()
I had an "interesting" experience with a 50-m long river crossing on the weekend, in my D2a TD5 auto.
The initial entry was deeper (1.0-m) than the remainder of the crossing (0.8-m), and upon entry the water splashed to the one-third up the windscreen, then dropped to the base of the windscreen.
About mid-way, the engine conked out. My mate jumped out the open window to get his Defender from the other side, to winch me out. After trying to restart it many times, I gave up. Then gave it a try after a minute or so, and she fired up and I drove out.
Water poured out once I opened the doors. Seems the water level got to the height of the electronics under the seats, but not over them. Water had entered the air box, but not got through the filter. Water would have been higher than the exhaust outlet.
We had to re-cross the river, and I basically had a repeat performance, but the Defender (Tdi) was fine. For the next hour or so of driving, the TD5 would conk out at about 3,000 rpm, but drove fine under that engine speed. To restart, it required putting it in Park, waiting long enough (half-minute?) for the coil light to illuminate before the next ignition sequence, then it would start without fail. Now it drives fine.
So, I'm wondering, what is the weak link (besides the driver!) in water crossings of this depth. And why did the engine conk out at around 3,000 rpm, requiring a half-minute rest before restarting?
Cheers.
It sounds to me like the auto went into limp mode
At that depth it may have got water into the engine ECU too.
Good thing they oil into them so it shoud be OK
The door seals being cut at the bottom don't help in this situation either![]()
Auto ecu is the problem,wonderfully installed under the passenger seat.I have done many water crossings,many up to bonnet level,engine has never stopped.Maybe you got water into the MAF ?,& the engine ECU.
Radiator fan can also be an issue as the blades may be pushed into the radiator.
I have now started useing a blind across the front on all water crossings of any depth.
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So, I'm wondering, what is the weak link (besides the driver!) in water crossings of this depth. And why did the engine conk out at around 3,000 rpm, requiring a half-minute rest before restarting?
Cheers.[/quote]
exactly that,
did you read the wading depth warnings?
the factory actually write that for a reason, probably mainly warranty issues
but when you drown it there are many issues to deal with.
i have a 95 d1 v8 and have on one occasion driven it for a long way, like 500 metres, with water over the bonnet, and come out of that only to go as deep as that again in flood water without it stopping.
i don't have a snorkel and at that time, had no experience with deep water, but i was able to maintain a bow wave even with the water lapping at the bottom of the windscreen, it should have stopped, but i must have managed to create an air pocket for the air box to breathe.
your starting problem does sound as if the engine may have ingested water,
as the water would not have got to the under the seat stuff whilst you were under way.
one of the worst things that happens when an engine stops due to drinking water is 'hydraulic lock'
we have this problem in the old radial engine aeroplanes, but theirs is an oil problem.
if the engine ingests water in a large enough quantity, it tries to compress it when you crank it over on the starter.
this leads to all manner of problems - head gasket, cranked head, bent con rods, and the list goes on.
i would be checking to see if it has a compression problem, watching the coolant level and listening for any different noises or vibrations from the engine.
having said all that, i hope your problems are related to the water level inside the car.
good luck with it.
The initial cuting out is not auto related.
Once water entered the cabin it got to the auto computer.
I stand to be corrected but in limp mode I understand the engine revs are limited to reduce damage.
When mine went into limp mode it cut out at 3,000RPM also.
I also seem to remember I had to move the "T" bar to change gears.
Exactly thr same happened t my old D2 and the insurance co wrote it off! The auto ecu is the culprit. I got mine going again only to be half way home when ;limp home mode' kicked in, I atually think this is 3rd with no lock-up. We just had to keep going as we had the camper in tow etc.
Chances are (I hate to say it) but the problem will recur and you will be up for a replacement auto ecu which ain't cheap! Hence the reason the insurance company's just ask one question... How much water was in the car? If they decide the ecu got wet, BANG, its gone as far as they are concerned.
Sorry for the bad news, but this was a pretty recent experience for me.
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