D2 TD5 timing chain alignment ?

ok, the easiest option for me is to drop the cam gear and spin it in the chain to line up, rather than try and get the crank gear lined up again on the chain.

must be a fair amount of valve clearance, cos its quite a few teeth out at the camgear end, and still turns over by hand with nothing hitting.
i am used to twincam Fiat mtors, if you are out 2 or 3 teeth on a timing belt, which are a lot smaller teeth, you end up putting valve heads into the pistons.
thats probly why i am paranoid about turning it over by hand to make sure nothing binds before i try and run it up.

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Originally Posted by Rosscoe68

ok, the easiest option for me is to drop the cam gear and spin it in the chain to line up, rather than try and get the crank gear lined up again on the chain.

must be a fair amount of valve clearance, cos its quite a few teeth out at the camgear end, and still turns over by hand with nothing hitting.
i am used to twincam Fiat mtors, if you are out 2 or 3 teeth on a timing belt, which are a lot smaller teeth, you end up putting valve heads into the pistons.
thats probly why i am paranoid about turning it over by hand to make sure nothing binds before i try and run it up.

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So are your pins lining up or not?:confused:
Refer to post 7 by strangy.
The 2 links should only line up if the crank one is on the corect tooth.

so no, mine aren't lining up. when the crank pin is in the cam is about 20 degrees out.
so the 2 dark links are off and the pin lockout is also off.
my bet is due to the chain coming loose down below when i had the head off, therefore even though everything was pin locked in place, the chain was loose due to no tensioner and not correct.
will fix it in the morning and update.

anyone know what size the crank nut is. 22 or 23 mm ?
will get correct long ring spanner, instead of big and awkward shifter to turn engine over by hand until i am confident it is right tio crank by starter power.

please delete, double post

soooo
for those that are interested
20 crankshaft revolutions before the timing chain dark markers will line up again.
gues that makes sense as it is a 5cyl 4 stroke.
oh and it IS and WAS all lined up, i just wasn't patient enough turning it over by hand to double check it, didnt realise i needed to turn it that many times :)

oh, and the crank bolt is 24 mm

Doubled on me too;)

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Originally Posted by Rosscoe68

soooo
for those that are interested
20 crankshaft revolutions before the timing chain dark markers will line up again.
gues that makes sense as it is a 5cyl 4 stroke.
oh and it IS and WAS all lined up, i just wasn't patient enough turning it over by hand to double check it, didnt realise i needed to turn it that many times :)

oh, and the crank bolt is 24 mm

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At least you know the chain didn't fall of the lower gear:)
And the crank and cam pins slip in still?
Is it still about 20deg. out?
Fair amount of adjustment on the 3 bolts;)

no, it all lined up perfectly, both pins slip in and the dark links are where they aught to be
:)
tomorrow will try and fire it up and hope it doesn't go bang :)

well it ran
but not for very long. noticed the fuel pump was running flat out. shut her down and checked the oil level and sure enough, was way above full and smells of diesel :(
pull cam cover off and start her and diesel ****ing out of no 3 injector.
pulled the injector out and the o-ring was on the second groove instead of the first, my bad. but at least i found it now instead of half way down the road when it would have started running on with so much diesel in the the sump. dropped the oil and was about 20 odd litres at least came out including oil and diesel.
lucky i used cheap oil to run it in on :)

so can anyone tell me if the fuel pump should be an audible high pitched whine constantly running ? my other TD5 only makes a sound like that when its out of fuel and the pump is sucking air, but its got a loud exhaust on it, so maybe i just don't hear the normal running of the pump over the exhaust on it.
don't recall it being like that before head replacement on this one with stock exhaust, however maybe i am now just a bit paranoid ?