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Thread: D2 TD5 fail safe sensors - torque and boost and ?

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    Question D2 TD5 fail safe sensors - torque and boost and ?

    Anyone able to please provide any information about the fail safe sensors in the D2 TD5 automatic transmission vehicle?

    From what I understand from my searching there is at least two - one is a sensor in/for the automatic transmission that detects torque.
    Another is a sensor of boost pressure in the manifold (I assume based on the MAP sensor reading).

    In particular what I would like to know is what is the effect of these sensors if triggered (i.e. do they cut the fuel or ...)? For what duration does this occur (i.e. until the car is reset by turned off and on, or just a short temporary cut or ...)?

    The reason I am asking relates to my thread at http://www.aulro.com/afvb/discovery-...wot-hills.html , trying to determine if it is one of the fail safe sensors that is causing it, and if so which one (i.e. if it is the boost pressure then this could be rectified with a Bell Auto Services TD5 Boost Box or Alive Tuning TD5 Turbo Booster), if it's the automatic transmission torque sensor or something else, then it might be more complicated.

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    It's worth having a look at RAVE D2 workshop manual > Fuel Delivery System - Td5 > Description and Operation > Description. This section describes all the engine sensors in a reasonable amount of detail and lists typical symptoms of failure of each sensor.

    In the event of a MAP/IAT sensor signal failure any of the following symptoms may be observed:
    • If the MAP sensor fails manifold pressure is set to a predetermined default value and the engine performance will be reduced.
    • If the IAT fails the ECM will set air temperature to a fixed value. The MIL will not illuminate in a MAP/IAT sensor failure and the ECM will use a fixed default value from its memory.
    It seems that if there is a fault that messes with the fuelling system in any way the auto shift points are affected. I've just fixed a warped exhaust manifold and this has improved performance of my TD5 and made shifting a whole lot better.

    I doubt any remap with improve a situation where you have a faulty sensor.

    cheers
    Paul

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    Thanks Paul, but I'm not after what happens if the sensors fail, but rather the 'fail safe' measures. I.e. If the working sensor 'senses' a reading that exceedes it's limit, what does the ECU do as a result of this. E.g. On my Ford Falcon XR6 Turbo if it senses the engines RPM above a certain speed it cuts fuel to the engine until the RPM has dropped down.
    So in a similar manner what I'm chasing is info on what is the effect or what does the ECU do when the MAP sensor detects boost above the limit, what happens when the automatic transmission detects torque above the limit, etc. And how long does this effect last, e.g. With my XR6T the fuel cut is only temporary until the RPM drops back down.

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