I have a 2000 D2 without CDL so above doesn't quite hold water.
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I have a 2000 D2 without CDL so above doesn't quite hold water.
Had a D2 Td5 without CDL was an 'ok' truck, fitted CDL (about $1500 incl LR linkage) and the vehicle was transformed.
Then fitted front and rear lockers for an even greater boost:D
Now have D2a with the lockers etc and it's a beast... all I need now is a reflash and I'll be in heaven.
As far as what to buy....... depends on the budget... Td5 will cost more upfront but imho is a far better vehicle with better economy and range. V8 cheap to run once on gas but the range is ****.
All down to the budget
The v8 is what makes a disco special. Can't get it in a deefer. Sweet sound,'revs so smoothly, faster than a stock td5. Around town MUCH quicker and nicer to drive in my view. So now you have this view and a view like Wardy has what do you do? Go test drive a couple of egs of each...then let us know. Cheers
Your transfer case should have the CDL, it just wont have the linkage to the lever. I'd be really surprised if you had a transfer case without a CDL as they didn't release them for about a year after the 2000. Mine is a MY00.5 and has CDL in the transfer.Quote:
Originally Posted by clubagreenie
I would get a 2000, early 2001 (with CDL in the transfer) or an update. These avoid the first batch problems and the no CDL problems.
If its for offroading I would also get ACE as a must for greater articulation and a coil spring rear end and the suspension is easier to modify - mind you, you can also do it with airbags too. I would also get the auto transmission, these are much more driveable offroad in the gnarly stuff. V8/TD5 - whatever, the V8 has instant power, the TD5 uses less fuel and can be made more powerful cheaply - great for touring.
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Originally Posted by wardy1
In most cases the cheapest part of owning any vehicle is paying for the fuel. As engines get older its way cheaper to refresh a petrol engine then a diesel.
Re Slunnie's comments about how easy it is to up power the TD5, well that is the case if your just talking about bolt on goodies. But for less then 5k you get a totally refreshed exchange 4.6 for your old 4L that is good for several hundred more thousand k's and has more then enough power for most anything you would want to do. Where as the Td5 with the bolt on go fast goodies is well over half worn out if it is of average mileage for its age.
Has anyone ever sat down and worked out what it costs all up including average servicing costs and fuel costs to drive a V8 Disco versus a TD5 with 100,000 k's on the clock for the second 100,000 k's of its life? I would hazard a guess the running cost arn't that much different and once you add in the different purchase costs I bet it would take years for a TD5 to become better value then a V8, if ever.
cheers,
Terry
I'm not sure if anybody has actually worn out a TD5 yet have they? When looking and asking I don't recall any. I'm not sure what the projected life of the TD5 is, but so far they have been living long.Quote:
Originally Posted by TerryO
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Originally Posted by Slunnie
Hi Slunnie,
However there have been quite a few that have had major failures though which as with most engines the chance of it happeing increases with age and mileage and from what I have read on here it is not cheap to completely one.
Still it would be a interesting to do the math and compare actual running costs between a V8 versus a TD5.
cheers,
Terry
Hey Terry,Quote:
Originally Posted by TerryO
True, but thats true of the V8s having failures also. I'm not sure there is much between the V8 and TD5 like that. The V8's does come with age, the TD5's seem to come from overheating assuming "the bolt" has been checked.
It would be interesting to compare running costs. I think that for servicing there wouldn't be much in it at all. The TD5 does have an additional centrifugal oil filter and it does have a fuel filter (I'm not sure if the D2 V8 has one of these????). I think everything else would be much the same fo servicing. Fuel consumption is obviously different. I would guess that the TD5 has a cheaper running cost, but they are more expenive. I think it was a $2500 option when I bought. This said, I'm sure when Walker did the calculations for short term ownership he decided upon the V8, but for a long term owner I suspect the TD5 may be where its at.... I have not done the maths on it.
Over the last 8 months my V8 has averaged 23.7c/km for fuel.
Over 100,000km that works out to $23,700.
138,000km on the clock now.
Anyone anal enough to keep records of a TD5?:p
I do have the internals sorry but not the lever.
As said the cost of refreshing a petrol as well as my knowledge of doing so vs never having done a diesel was a factor. I also ended up with coils all round (looked for that) and ACE (didn't look for that). So ended up with a happy 4.6.