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    TD5 towing newbie

    Hello everyone.
    I have a 99 SII TD5. Ive recently had the CDL fitted.
    we have also bought a 1 tonne camper trailer (Dove-Outback). Previously, i have towed a 7 x 4 trailer like once every couple of years to the tip and back and that 10k ks is it. As far as doing it properly Im crap and really have no experience

    Now its happening much more frequently, whats the go with simple things like towing in cruise control,what about sports mode, what about sports and cruise control, what about the cdl off the black stuff. Are there any tricks that Ill get caught out by or that will adversely affect feul consumption and the like.

    We have done a few trips so im trying to learn as we go. Id be keen for some sage advice to make sure i dont break anything,,,well unintentially anyway.
    many thanks
    Mat

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    engage the cdl on dirt, it will cost more in fuel but the disco will handle much better.
    I dont go near cruise when towing,, the V8 is super agressive in kicking down in cruise, (usually two gears!)
    be interesting to hear rattler owners opinion though.
    sport just changes the kickdown/hold point.

    Make sure the ELECTRIC brakes work properly, and get good mudflaps for the rear wheels.

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    Hello Jedimastermat,

    when you're towing, leave the auto in sport mode. The reason being that with the easier kick downs, it reduces strain on your drive line.

    Cheers,

    Jason

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro_The_Swift View Post
    engage the cdl on dirt, it will cost more in fuel but the disco will handle much better.
    I dont go near cruise when towing,, the V8 is super agressive in kicking down in cruise, (usually two gears!)
    be interesting to hear rattler owners opinion though.
    sport just changes the kickdown/hold point.

    Make sure the ELECTRIC brakes work properly, and get good mudflaps for the rear wheels.

    and dont forget,,
    it never happened without-----
    Oh a night excursion bogged on the Birdsville made me learn the value of working electric brakes.
    thanks for tip Pedro

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason789 View Post
    Hello Jedimastermat,

    when you're towing, leave the auto in sport mode. The reason being that with the easier kick downs, it reduces strain on your drive line.

    Cheers,

    Jason
    ta mate, i should have said shes an auto
    thanks for the advice

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    I am nearing the end of 15k trip towing a jayco swan equivelant camper with a 00 td5 auto and have found that at the start i was using cruise however it will make the car work really hard up hills now i may pop it on for a while on a flat bitumen road but mostly just use the right foot. Around town i tend to leave the auto in normal mode when towing however on the highway i tend to use sport as it will kick down easier instead of having the motor labouring up a hill. Only the egr has been done otherwise the motor is stock standard. i have averaged 12.5l/100k towing at around 100kph with 6 people in the car.

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    For towing on the open road, wether you use sport or normal mode, I'd recomend that as you approach hills, rather than let the auto decide when to kick down, that you pull the stick back to 3rd, with enough time before the hill to allow the torque converter to lockup in 3rd ... it will deal with the hills much better than getting 1/2 way up the hill, running out of steam, having the gearbox drop to 3rd and rev its tits off with the torque converter unlocked to get over the top.

    They pull really well in 3rd with the torque converter locked (in 3rd it's a 1:1 ratio, where as 4th is really an overdive).

    Torque converter locks at 70kmhr+ in 3rd.
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    On a TD5 they tow much better if you change the torque converter to the uprated Ashcroft unit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluids View Post
    For towing on the open road, wether you use sport or normal mode, I'd recomend that as you approach hills, rather than let the auto decide when to kick down, that you pull the stick back to 3rd, with enough time before the hill to allow the torque converter to lockup in 3rd ... it will deal with the hills much better than getting 1/2 way up the hill, running out of steam, having the gearbox drop to 3rd and rev its tits off with the torque converter unlocked to get over the top.

    They pull really well in 3rd with the torque converter locked (in 3rd it's a 1:1 ratio, where as 4th is really an overdive).

    Torque converter locks at 70kmhr+ in 3rd.
    Likewise Fluids,
    I've done a couple of tours around oz now in my 01 TD5 Disco (in fact, on the way back from Kal to NE Vic at the moment) towing close to 3 tonne in a 21' full height van and I always pull the stick back before letting the engine load down too much when coming into a climb. I find once I get to about 70km/hr and pull it back it momemtarily drops into slip gear and I lift the right foot a little it quiety drops into TC lockup and with a little right foot you can feel that theres generally plenty of grunt there still. (thanks to Tombie's magic )

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    You will get the feel of it soon enough. I think with your van that it will not be too bad in cruse on the flat. My 99 model is crap in cruse in anything other than the flat without a van and no better with one either! My van is heavier than yours but is still very good at 110km/hr. Unlike others I have found the sports not that useful most of the time. Yes dropping it into 3rd and letting it lock up is good to stop it seeking up and down the gears on a hill. If you don,t have SLS then a weight distribution hitch is a good thing for better handling and stopping power. Others will disagree but I think it is a good thing with SLS too. Depends what your ball weight is with that van.

    In a really strong head wind I have found it more economical to cruse along in 3rd gear doing 90-100k rather than push along in 4th.

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