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    D2a Fuel Filter

    With the D2a update models the wiring loom on the fuel filter was removed.

    To the best of my knowledge, this loom activated the warning lamp that indicates water in the fuel. Seeing as this loom was removed, does the fuel warning lamp still work (according to the owners manual it's still there) and if so, how is it activated in the update models?

    Anyone know?

    Cheers,

    Franz

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    My 03 D2a has the wiring and the sensor
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    My (built) 02/2004 D2a still has the wiring loom (they all do I believe), but it's been tucked up away ontop of the chassis rail. It still has the sensor screwed into the bottom on the fuel filter (they all did), but the function has been disabled in the ECU. The fuel warning light still illuminates during the pre-flight check.

    In the "late" update models it doesn't have the "water-in-the-fuel" warning feature. It was removed due to the high incidence of false triggering.

    I guess, in theory, it should be possible to re-enable the function using testbook or similar, as all the required parts are still there ... it just needs to be reconnected and turned on in the ECU.
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    The wiring to the plug for the sensor that fits to the bottom of the filter has been removed in the vehicles that do not have the sensor fitted.
    As Fluids has said it was for this reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sniegy View Post
    The wiring to the plug for the sensor that fits to the bottom of the filter has been removed in the vehicles that do not have the sensor fitted.
    As Fluids has said it was for this reason.
    Cheers
    Thanks Pete & Fluids - so, what you are saying is that if I do get water in the fuel, I will not get any electronic warning?

    So, what happens if I get water in my fuel - will this not cause engine hydraulicing ?

    Cheers,

    Franz

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    No warning!

    Its possible ... but just be careful where you get fuel. If filling from jerrys, I always decant the last 1/4 or so to a vessel if I can, to check to see if there's water ... it comes out of the jerry last, not first ... and periodically drain the fuel filter with a bowl under it ... to check for water.

    In 2.5yrs I've drained no water when checking the filter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluids
    No warning!

    Its possible ... but just be careful where you get fuel. If filling from jerrys, I always decant the last 1/4 or so to a vessel if I can, to check to see if there's water ... it comes out of the jerry last, not first ... and periodically drain the fuel filter with a bowl under it ... to check for water.

    In 2.5yrs I've drained no water when checking the filter.
    I've never had an issue with the light coming on and mines connected.

    I do wonder though if the fuel temp has any bearing on the water possibly evaporating or slightly mixing to a certain degree. I've usually got a fuel temp of around 65C and the filter is always fairly hot to touch, either that or I keep getting good quality fuel.

    Unlike in a petrol however, don't use a fuel system cleaner if you do have water in the tank as it will absorb it and send it thru the injection system which is exactly what you don't want.

    Patiently waiting for synthetic fuel. If they can do oil......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franz View Post
    Thanks Pete & Fluids - so, what you are saying is that if I do get water in the fuel, I will not get any electronic warning?

    So, what happens if I get water in my fuel - will this not cause engine hydraulicing ?

    Cheers,

    Franz

    I love my Disco but this is the sort of engineering that gives the pommys a bad name. Come up with a good idea (water in fuel sensor), do a poor job of component selection, create a problem then remove the functionality.
    Why did they not just get a better sensor. Its a great feature, mine has been fine and it has detected water once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LOVEMYRANGIE View Post
    I've never had an issue with the light coming on and mines connected.

    I do wonder though if the fuel temp has any bearing on the water possibly evaporating or slightly mixing to a certain degree. I've usually got a fuel temp of around 65C and the filter is always fairly hot to touch, either that or I keep getting good quality fuel.

    Unlike in a petrol however, don't use a fuel system cleaner if you do have water in the tank as it will absorb it and send it thru the injection system which is exactly what you don't want.

    Patiently waiting for synthetic fuel. If they can do oil......

    Using Capitals, the difference between helping your Uncle Jack off a horse or helping your uncle jack off a horse...
    My first D2 had the sensor and in the 4 years I owned it, the light never came on.

    Reason I raised the topic was that a mate just had his light come on in a Cruiser and that got me thinking.

    Would there be any symptoms if there was water in the fuel?

    Cheers,

    Franz

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    Depends on how much. The filter is a basic water separator arrangement but they aren't a silicone treated paper in these IIRC.
    The light will come on if there is enough water to complete a circuit but you don't know how much has been floating around I the tank and got sucked up and dumped into the filter. It may be gradual, it may happen all at once.
    What a lot of people miss is that if the sensor is saying you have it in the filter, there is most likely more in the tank.
    If we see water in any separator in the workshop, the tanks are drained straight away, and I'm talking prime mover here.
    Most of the trucks we supply will have a separator fitted with a sight bowl do its easy to work it out however all the elements are silicone treated to keep it on the sedimenter side and not permeate thru the element should it get overly full.

    Even if water mixes or starts to be absorbed by the fuel, these elements will still separate it.
    Generally not so with automotive filters.

    LandCruiser, well honestly who cares... If it dies that's one more POS off the road!

    Using Capitals, the difference between helping your Uncle Jack off a horse or helping your uncle jack off a horse...

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