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    Question Clutch Problems - Please help...

    Hi All,
    Hope you are doing really well and are into the full swing of 2012 :-D...

    Just wondering whether any folk can add some input please...

    I have a D2 00 manual V8 hi comp engine. The issue I am having are a few of which I think are clutch related...

    1. The clutch seems to get stuck about a 1/3 way (if that) of it coming back up once I have depressed it from changing into a gear. Seems to only be the case in all 4 and not reverse. Just to add to my confusion, when I change into any of the 1,2,3,4th gears this may not necessarily happen everytime and can happen on any one of the gears...

    My question - is there some sort of fluid reservoir I need to be looking at and if so, where? or is it something else I should be looking at in unison? Perhaps something needs some lubrication 'somewhere'... !!

    2. Tonight when I went to the local shops (3k drive), I experienced a few worrying things:

    2a. Once I had changed the gear and started to lift the clutch up, there was a very loud noise which seemed almost like a scraping sound occuring yet vibrating through the clutch pedal that I also felt en foot, however this didn't happen every time changing between gear and seemed to happen only in 2nd or 'so' gear. Not otherwise experienced before.

    2b If I changed the gear slowly and drove slowly the noise didn't happen at all nor any sticking of the clutch pedal.

    I have absolutely no idea if anyone can understand my explanations but hope some advice can be obtained...

    With our 4 y/o starting 'big girl' school very soon, I really need to get this sorted before she starts for my own sanity considering I will be travelling with 3 of her younger siblings too...

    Appreciate the help as usual,

    Thanks muchly

    Lp

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    When was last time clutch was changed it might be realise bearing sticking onto pressure plate!! I could be wrong I came across simliar problem with another car 2 years ago the bearing made a grove into pressure plate and was hard to change gears I am a HV mechanic by trade

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    Quote Originally Posted by JGARDE View Post
    When was last time clutch was changed it might be realise bearing sticking onto pressure plate!! I could be wrong I came across simliar problem with another car 2 years ago the bearing made a grove into pressure plate and was hard to change gears I am a HV mechanic by trade
    Hi JGARDE, thanks for your input. No idea when the clutch was changed last. It's up in the k's and some major work having been done recently.

    My husband seems to think the clutch may be slipping, I don't think so. I drive it every day, he doesn't... but I know something isn't right with her...but what???

    I'm sorry but I don't know what a HV mechanic is....

    Welcome to AULRO :-D

    Cheers,
    Lp

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    sounds like the thrust bearing or the thrust bearing carrier is gone.
    Dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blknight.aus View Post
    sounds like the thrust bearing or the thrust bearing carrier is gone.
    Hi Dave,
    Thanks for the reply. No idea what that is... in simple terms though... is it a big expensive job only a mechanic can do?

    Lp

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    nothing on a landy is a job only a mechanic can do.

    you just need an engine crane and some tools and a copy of the rave with a bit of patients.
    Dave

    "In a Landrover the other vehicle is your crumple zone."

    For spelling call Rogets, for mechanicing call me.

    Fozzy, 2.25D SIII Ex DCA Ute
    Tdi autoManual d1 (gave it to the Mupion)
    Archaeoptersix 1990 6x6 dual cab(This things staying)


    If you've benefited from one or more of my posts please remember, your taxes paid for my skill sets, I'm just trying to make sure you get your monies worth.
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    mechanical experence would be an advantage, also a hoist as it requires the removal of the gearbox. The trust bearing is a bearing that slides up the shaft as you depress your clutch, it pushes onto the fingers of the pressure plate, this inturn releases your clutch plate. Things to do at the same time may include clutch and pressure plate, pilot and thrust bearings, rear enginge seal, front gearbox seal
    cheers
    blaze

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blknight.aus View Post
    nothing on a landy is a job only a mechanic can do.

    you just need an engine crane and some tools and a copy of the rave with a bit of patients.
    Hi Dave,

    If it's just this thrust bearing (is this also known as the 'clutch release bearing' and 'throw away bearing'? - just trying to understand the different terminology if it's all the same) - can that just be replaced without needing to replace anything else?

    hubby doesn't feel comfortable pulling LP apart...

    i'm wondering how many mechanics out there if I bought the part/s would be happy charging to do the work?

    Is this one of those parts that until you pull it out/apart you won't know whats wrong with it type of thing??

    Just trying to get my head around it all...

    appreciate the help,
    thanks
    Lp

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    Quote Originally Posted by landyprincess View Post
    Hi Dave,

    If it's just this thrust bearing (is this also known as the 'clutch release bearing' and 'throw away bearing'? - just trying to understand the different terminology if it's all the same) - can that just be replaced without needing to replace anything else?

    hubby doesn't feel comfortable pulling LP apart...

    i'm wondering how many mechanics out there if I bought the part/s would be happy charging to do the work?

    Is this one of those parts that until you pull it out/apart you won't know whats wrong with it type of thing??

    Just trying to get my head around it all...

    appreciate the help,
    thanks
    Lp


    Thrust bearing, clutch release bearing, throw out bearing. All the same thing.

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBi5B_jVVGU]How to remove throw out bearing - YouTube[/ame]

    Images not necessarily LR but you should get the idea. Between motor and gear box is the clutch assembly as per the pic and video. To replace the bearing you will need to remove the gearbox. While you don't need to be a mechanic to pull a geabox out, I would not recommend that you take on this job unless you are confident and have a socket set and some extensions to get to all the bolts around the bell housing. I don't expect the part to be all that expensive but it will be 4-6 hours labour at a guess. One of the people on here who is a mechanic or someone who has had the job done recently will be able to give you a better estimate.

    PS. HV = Heavy Vehicle (could be High Voltage but I don't think they call themselves mechanics )

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    the clutch release bearing and the throwout bearing are the same object described by different manufacturers in the same way that throttle pedal and Accelerator pedal both mean the one on the far right that makes the engine go noisey.

    Generally when you do the throw out bearing you also replace quite a few other clutch parts, not because they need to be changed but because pulling the engine/Box is a fairly involved job and not one you want to repeat 6-12 months later.

    If you provided all the parts and $$ pretty much any mechanic would do it for you BUT I suggest you find one thats got a history of working on landies as it will get done a little faster and with less bullswalloping.

    Id expect about an 8 hour labour charge and usually quote it out as a full days job + transit time when I do one as a call out on the customers driveway.
    Dave

    "In a Landrover the other vehicle is your crumple zone."

    For spelling call Rogets, for mechanicing call me.

    Fozzy, 2.25D SIII Ex DCA Ute
    Tdi autoManual d1 (gave it to the Mupion)
    Archaeoptersix 1990 6x6 dual cab(This things staying)


    If you've benefited from one or more of my posts please remember, your taxes paid for my skill sets, I'm just trying to make sure you get your monies worth.
    If you think you're in front on the deal, pay it forwards.

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