D2 front recovery points???

Back to the original question, to accurately help, need to know you have a bull bar fitted or do you have the original front plastic bumper? It makes a big difference in what you can fit as the aftermarket recovery brackets are too short to protrude below the original bumper. I have the std bumper, couldn't afford a bull bar so fitted a second tow point and run a bridle.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...2012/05/62.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...015/03/610.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...2012/05/63.jpg

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give outcast [grover69] or philco a pm, they are both still around.

if you have an original bumper you can neatly slot the plastic to have the recovery points visible and accessable to put a shackle into.

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Originally Posted by simonl8353

Back to the original question, to accurately help, need to know you have a bull bar fitted or do you have the original front plastic bumper? It makes a big difference in what you can fit as the aftermarket recovery brackets are too short to protrude below the original bumper. I have the std bumper, couldn't afford a bull bar so fitted a second tow point and run a bridle.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...2012/05/62.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...015/03/610.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...2012/05/63.jpg

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do you have a better picture of what the shackles attach to?

The shackles attach through a sling to two std tow points (one shown in 1st pic). Because of the 2nd attachment point (essential) you have sufficient for most reasonable recoveries. There will be plenty of debate here as their always is with recovery points. I use a 8mm Dynamica sling - the orange rope in pic below, rated 6.6 tonne (at splice) and I figure if 1 shackle (WLL 2T each) or tow point gives way then the sling will slip through the recovery strap and fail safe. No other shackles go into this recovery, and definitely not to join two recovery straps.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...2012/05/61.jpg

Edited below to add more pics I just found.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...014/01/900.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...015/03/608.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...014/01/901.jpg

I have a ARB bar on the front, I just need a good recovery point to match it.

I installed the Philco ones as they match the ARB bar setup very well. Link here:

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/verandah/1...ery-point.html

Cheers
Simon

I am joining a group for a Simpson trip and "the group" decided that every one needs rated front recovery points directly attached to the chassis. To date I have relied on ARB doing their sums when they added the recovery points to the front of the Bull Bar but will bend to the wishes of the group. To that end I have just ordered a set from Outcast Offroad. I expect that they will reduce approach angle and will probably only leave them on for this trip but will post back if I like them enough to keep them.

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Originally Posted by simonl8353

The shackles attach through a sling to two std tow points (one shown in 1st pic). Because of the 2nd attachment point (essential) you have sufficient for most reasonable recoveries. There will be plenty of debate here as their always is with recovery points. I use a 8mm Dynamica sling - the orange rope in pic below, rated 6.6 tonne (at splice) and I figure if 1 shackle (WLL 2T each) or tow point gives way then the sling will slip through the recovery strap and fail safe. No other shackles go into this recovery, and definitely not to join two recovery straps.

Edited below to add more pics I just found.

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As you say there will be some debate here, but for actual "off road" recovery, no way I'd hook up to your points.
Some light assistance..... maybe, depending on the circumstance.

LR make it very clear that these points are for "on road" recovery only i.e breakdown pull onto flat top.

Those points are not up to off road recovery and despite your efforts to have a failsafe, still have a strong potential for a shackle or tow point to injure or kill.

Cheers

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Originally Posted by John W

I am joining a group for a Simpson trip and "the group" decided that every one needs rated front recovery points directly attached to the chassis. To date I have relied on ARB doing their sums when they added the recovery points to the front of the Bull Bar but will bend to the wishes of the group. To that end I have just ordered a set from Outcast Offroad. I expect that they will reduce approach angle and will probably only leave them on for this trip but will post back if I like them enough to keep them.

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Given the ARB bull bar is directly bolted to the chassis and the tow points are integral with the bar, how will tow points on the chassis be any different? unless someone in your 'group' is going to do the engineering calcs. Also the recovery points on the market I've seen don't carry any formal ratings including the set I bought from ARB some years back.

I certainly wouldn't be anywhere near someone using the factory fitted tie down point - even doubled up - for recovery rather than towing.

Doesn't the ARB bar bolt on to crush cans?, I would have thought in a snatch recovery these would possibly stretch and deform.
I personally wouldn't use my bar for any recovery, and I fitted 4x4 intelligence recovery points to mine and am very happy with them