Disco 2 - V8 or Td5

I'll put my hand up as a V8 owner who won't recommend LPG. Instead put the money into a 4.6. I bought mine and within 6 months had found the heater core had a leak (when the heater wouldn't work) and that it had dropped a liner.
I originally bought the V8 despite knowing the TD5 would be better on fuel the V8 I know the engine and it's also auto just drive it accordingly. At 80 to 90 it's great on fuel, but only run 98 (and mine prefers shell) and then up to 110 it thirsty again but from 120 on it comes good again. So around the suburban motorways it's 90, out past Dubbo it's 125 +.

Just after doing the head gaskets it kept playing up (with the same symptoms as during the head gaskets) and ended up rebuilding the auto as well which meant I now have a known driveline (moreso now after doing the diffs with Ashcroft lockers as well).

It cost about $3000- all up to source a known low K'm 4.6 from a wrecked P38 and swap over with new gaskets throughout, head & bottom end studs, oil & water pumps etc. Now it goes like it always should have. Gets up to 800k's on the highway, around 450 in the city.

If I had the same issue with a diesel I'm sure I would have been a lot worse off, not only because I couldn't manage to work out the diesel rebuilding but it seems that when one goes it's a lot dearer than a V8 to do and the management of servicing sems to be a bigger deal amongst the diesel crowd.

Td5 ... V8 ... blah blah blah!
It doesn't matter ... just make sure it's a green one 😉

and my Td5 clutch went at 125000kms, so did the radiator ... and the turbo!

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Originally Posted by OffTrack

The 97 d1 with 125k km mentioned above had issues resulting from short trips for it entire life. The owner had done lots of 5km trips and the engine never got properly warmed up. Despite the vehicle having a book service every 6 months I wouldn't have touched it with a barge pole, even though it was being offered at family pricing.

Cheers
Paul

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Yep, I think we're talking about the same people...

to be fair though a v8 treated the same way would have suffered the same.

what stuns me is that none of the V8 crowd have picked on the cost of parts (the v8 parts are generally a lot cheaper for the v8) or the fact that you can usually rebuild the v8 or source a cheap replacement for it for around 1/3rd the cost of what you can the td5 (if you do it properly)

When you weigh it all in, over a 5 year period (and the last time I worked this out it was for tdi300 VS 3.9 v8) given mean failure rates for various components, a single price point for all the parts and the average price of second hand vehicles (purchased outright with cash) the total costs were surprisingly close with the diesel only just coming out in front based on its fuel figures.

I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest to learn that If I sat down and punched it all through the guestimolater again that the numbers would be bigger but with about the same variance with the v8 coming in slightly ahead based on fuel (assuming normal unleaded versus premium diesel).

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Originally Posted by ozscott

Haha...not sulky Paul, just being conciliatory. I wouldnt swap my 2 v8's for rattlers under any circumstances. Lets see what the OP does now that he has had all this unbiased info from V8 owners and TD owners...

Cheers

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And vice versa. There isn't really any such thing as an unbiased answer to the question of V8 or Td5 when you ask owners. It's akin to asking what is the best footy team, or religion. DiscoEMU is clearly a heretic in this regards and we'll be checking to see if he floats or sinks at the first available opportunity. :D

If you listen to the pundits you would avoid the V8 like a plague but they clearly have a passionate following.

Just jumping back to the CEO's comments. I don't actually think it's entirely true to say it was purely about development costs. The comments about the character of the Discovery 2 as a vehicle have little to do with whether a V8 or Td5 is more in tune with the heritage of the marque. You have to bear in mind that the 90's were a period what LR promoted as their age of technology. It's the point where innovation becomes far more important to the company than long held tradition.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81ukCq4bdUU]Land Rover at 50: Discovery 2 - YouTube[/ame]

The company spent a lot of time working to develop the three letter acronyms, so I'm certain the pinnacle of the Discovery 2 character for the company is one which embodies all of the new technology brought to the design.

If you look at it in this way a Td5 Auto with ACE and SLS comes closest to the designed character. At the opposite end of the scale a V8 manual without ACE or SLS represents the most minimal level of technology adopted, and therefore is the furthest in character from an "ideal" Discovery 2.

cheers
Paul

...Paul you forgot to add that the one closest to the LR ideal must be black ...:D

Mines only Bonati Grey,: so mine only has a nod and a wink at the LR grail.:D:D

Cheers

I'm the been there done that person.

Good V8s are available from $8k if your willing to wait and haggle and walk away. Some V8s have been on the market for way to long and the owners want them gone. Remember that the flip side will be true when you come to sell.

Very average TD5s are available from $11k.

$8k to $11k, thats a lot of fuel.

Then there is the service intervals and the cost of services. Diesels have shorter intervals and are generally more expensive to service.

So diesels cost more to purchase and service.

We just did a long run pulling 700 kg in a box trailer, fully ladened at the speed limit the whole way and got 16 - 17 lt per 100 km. Thats over 500 km before the fuel light comes on.

So what do you want the car for. 20 - 30 Ks a year, trips to the middle of nowhere, then get a diesel. If not the V8 is a lot of car for the money and a beautiful ride.

Regardless of your decision budget $260 for a new seat foam and diaphragm from exmoor trim, even if your seat looks IK you have no idea how much it has sagged and lost support until you put the new one in.

Happy hunting.

Well I'm glad I didnt listen to any "pundits":cool:
15 years of V8 Disco's:banana::banana:

pundits all think with their wallets, and know to the exact milliltire how much fuel their car uses,,

oh sorry! is that you TD5 owners?:whistling:

life is more than $ figures:D

V8 drivers, please stand your leader has arrived :tease::lol2:
Hey Pedro, it's a pity we didn't do the same trip at Glenreagh, we could have seen a V8 vs Td5 battle royale :cool:
The one to pick is whichever one you want.
Find a good example or two of both, drive them, pick which one you want and enjoy the permagrin.
As Pedro says, life's more than money :)
Cheers
Muppet

Td5 is superior ... cause I drive one ... And Pedro doesn't !

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Commencement of juvenile reasons why Td5s are superior to V8s :D
To kick it off, your plugs only spark, ours glow :cool:
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