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    Idiots and rattle guns

    A couple of months ago I went to a well known specialist off road store and had some mtz tyres fitted in the 32" size.
    First of all the "experts" said these wouldn't fit.....yes they do....mmmmm

    Then just this weekend gone I found out that the numb*#%^ who did the job obviously used a rattle gun to do the wheel nuts up.

    I was changing my suspension and of course this entails wheel removal. Normal tools would not undo even one nut on any of the four wheels. Now I have my own rattle gun and used this to undo the nuts....I only managed to get 5 of the 20 nuts off with a rattle gun!

    I ended up using a 6' extension pipe on a socket bar to crack the remaining nuts all the time waiting for that snapped stud sound.....or my back giving out!

    Now imagine being out in the bush, on your own on a stinker of a day and getting a flat.......this could be a life ender.....seriously.

    You would think that a specialist 4wd store would have more sense than your local tyre dealer as to the repercussions of remote travel....obviously not.

    The morale of this story is when you get some work done, particularly this type, check to see if tensions/adjustments are correct, or this scenario could cost you dearly.

    Not happy jan!

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    I totally agree with you! To the extent now I watch them do the nuts up after telling them how tight I want them, and I still recheck when I get home. As you say it could be a life incident, I have come across a vehicle and occupants immobilized because of this exact thing. they were not in danger just very inconvenienced.
    Really cannot stress it enough that people recheck the nuts before venturing into the wilds.

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    Ive got into the habit of loosening and retightning wheel nuts once I get home.
    If they can't be undone with the wheel brace it goes back.

    A simple wheel change doesn't need to become a trip changeing drama
    This can be worse if you have locknuts.

    The only exeption is the work truck where I watch them tourque the nuts.
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    no they are morons who dont know how to read or set torque values.

    Work Accident Photos–WARNING VERY GRAPHIC

    the person with the nut wound finger from that link is an idiot with a rattle gun.

    Graphics warning level BLuuurgh..... you might loose your cookies over some of the images.
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    Had the same thing with my D2, but what made it worse was they used the gun on the locknuts. Ended up finally getting them off and getting new nuts to replace the locks.
    Inconsiderate tossers that don't know their job, and probably don't care anyway.

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    just recently had all tyres replace on mine, after 2wks and a weekend camping . spotted last weekend one nut missing from the drivers front, checked the nuts on that wheel and one was finger loose, the rest needed tightening with the wheel brace. checked all the other wheels and all nuts need a tweak to come tight so i thing they used the wrong torque bar.
    store in question checked cctv and confirmed the fitter worked all four corners but of course could not see if correct tools used, they are replacing the lost nut and will look over it all at the weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blknight.aus View Post
    no they are morons who dont know how to read or set torque values.

    Work Accident Photos–WARNING VERY GRAPHIC

    the person with the nut wound finger from that link is an idiot with a rattle gun.

    Graphics warning level BLuuurgh..... you might loose your cookies over some of the images.
    Yah , too true, I havent stuck a rattle gun on my finger but
    the guy with the wire in the eye resembles an injury I had,
    I lost a lot of eye fluid & gave myself a cataract, had to get a Fred Hollows implant and a cornea graft.

    And I had a lawnmower blade smash my side window as I was driving past some guy mowing his nature strip, Lucky I had the window up.
    EVERY time I drive past anyone mowing now its windows up & turn my head away from the mower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goingbush View Post
    Yah , too true, I havent stuck a rattle gun on my finger but
    the guy with the wire in the eye resembles an injury I had,
    I lost a lot of eye fluid & gave myself a cataract, had to get a Fred Hollows implant and a cornea graft.

    And I had a lawnmower blade smash my side window as I was driving past some guy mowing his nature strip, Lucky I had the window up.
    EVERY time I drive past anyone mowing now its windows up & turn my head away from the mower.
    I went to emergency a few nights ago, triage nurse takes my name, looks at me and says foreign body in eye, yep I reply, she says thought so, your history says it all....

    Ironically enough, I pull out the jigsaw to cut out for a temp controller on a control box for a powder coating oven for a job, put safety glasses on, a bit of steel flicks up and deflects of my glasses into my eye, got that one out myself, 2 in 2 weeks

    Rattle guns undo, torque wrenches/breaker bars do up

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigkevg View Post
    A couple of months ago I went to a well known specialist off road store and had some mtz tyres fitted in the 32" size.
    First of all the "experts" said these wouldn't fit.....yes they do....mmmmm

    Then just this weekend gone I found out that the numb*#%^ who did the job obviously used a rattle gun to do the wheel nuts up.

    I was changing my suspension and of course this entails wheel removal. Normal tools would not undo even one nut on any of the four wheels. Now I have my own rattle gun and used this to undo the nuts....I only managed to get 5 of the 20 nuts off with a rattle gun!

    I ended up using a 6' extension pipe on a socket bar to crack the remaining nuts all the time waiting for that snapped stud sound.....or my back giving out!

    Now imagine being out in the bush, on your own on a stinker of a day and getting a flat.......this could be a life ender.....seriously.

    You would think that a specialist 4wd store would have more sense than your local tyre dealer as to the repercussions of remote travel....obviously not.

    The morale of this story is when you get some work done, particularly this type, check to see if tensions/adjustments are correct, or this scenario could cost you dearly.

    Not happy jan!

    Cheers all
    Kev
    Yes, a supposedly reputable tyre store (part of a national chain) used a rattle gun on my vehicle and I had a hard time removing the nuts. Needless to say, I caused some damage and they had to buy me a complete set of nuts for the vehicle. On another occasion, another reputable tyre place use a rattle gun on the spare tyre carrier and broke a stud - they fised it at their expense!

    Moral of the story - whenever taking the vehicle to a tyre shop make sure you specify "no rattle guns to be used"

    Be specific with tyre shops and non Land Rover repairers.

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    One stuff-up that will stay with me, is when I was a Patrol2IC for a 1800km vehicle mounted patrol, half off track.
    New tyres on one vehicle and I didn't check the nuts.
    Yep, you guessed which vehicle gets a flat.
    Ever tried to change a Custo Extra Grip- High Miler on the vehicle, even on a split rim, it was a challenge!
    Always check now, had a few words with the manager last set of tyres I got.
    Hand tighten the locknuts, don't throw the old tyres away and here is the kill switch.
    All too hard "A lot of work for a little money"he says. Won't go back there.
    Didn't put the old tyres in the boot
    Kept my lock nut key and the brace!!

    They clearly had too much business.
    Dave

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