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15th February 2013, 05:05 PM
#1
TD5 Auto Question
Hi Guys, Great site and thanks for all info. I have just become the proud owner of a 2004 Discovery TD5 auto 250k`s. Great car but it seems very sluggish on hills starts. It gets to the point where i don`t think it will make it up the hill. Once the turbo kicks in at around 2000 rpm it starts to get going but before this its limited to about 5kpm! Is this normal? I have just come out of a landcruiser 4lt on gas which had a bit of go but this Disco seems Very slow of the mark. I have checked the air filter and it is clean. Any other suggestions? Thanks
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15th February 2013, 05:22 PM
#2
How much throttle are you giving it?, they have a long stroke accellerator and you will have to put your boot into it a lot more than your petrol cruiser
Sounds about right, re turbo as it doesn't spool up until around 2000 rpm, coupled with the auto box they can be slow off the mark if you are not giving it the berries
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15th February 2013, 06:15 PM
#3
TD5 Auto Question
There is turbo lag under 2k (about 2200 is peak torque when you should really feel it kick in), but the auto box will mask this at lower revs. The raw capacity of 2.5 L trying to move 2.5 tonnes uphill means its relying on the turbo. The engine ecu will work out the fuelling and boost, but to really get going it seems to work this out better if you give it full boot from standing start rather than from rolling start or progressively increasing. If its really sluggish could be another issue. Inter cooler, pipe work or EGR could need checking?
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15th February 2013, 06:18 PM
#4
Check your MAF (Mass Air Flow) sensor.
I had similar symptoms and a clean with MAF cleaner retured everything back to normal.
Roger

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16th February 2013, 07:40 AM
#5
Thanks for your replies. I think you are right, mabye i`m a little too gentle! I will also clean the MAF and see if it makes a difference... cheers
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16th February 2013, 08:44 AM
#6
If the MAF clean doesn't fix the problem, disconnect it and see if that makes a difference. If it does the MAF has probably failed. The MAF output can be tesed with a Nanocom or similar device.
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16th February 2013, 08:47 AM
#7
I had the same problem it ended up being the oxygen flow/pressure sensor on the inlet manifold; changed that and it was a new machine...
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16th February 2013, 10:08 AM
#8
I am not disagreeing with previous comments but when I first got my D2a TD5 I thought it was a bit sluggish but when I 'learned' how to drive it it was a whole different vehicle.
I was initially very light on the throttle but I soon learned that a bit more of the right foot made a BIG difference.
Hope you sort it out. They are nice vehicles.
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16th February 2013, 10:26 AM
#9
While the suggestions above are valid, don't fall into the trap of randomly replacing sensors in the hope that you'll fix a problem. It's a sure fire way to turn a Td5 into a money pit.
Have a look here and you should find a member nearby who has Nanocom:
https://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms'm...79592,1.319733
You'll have to send a PM via the forum to the name listed on the map to get in touch.
If you can prevail upon someone to check for engine fault codes, and to record fuelling inputs for a 5-10 minute drive you'll have a very good snapshot of whether the engine is running correctly. Members will be more than happy to help interpret the "tea leaves".
cheers
Paul
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16th February 2013, 02:06 PM
#10
A few things I've learnt re a 2004 D2a.
1) It does need to be driven with a heavy right foot.
2) A genuine MAF unit works, a non genuine MAF doesn't. Don't know why. Learnt that from Davis Performance Landy.
3) I had power issues with mine for ages. MAF, EGR + still unknown, probably pressure switch. When I first bought it it would struggle to do 80km/h on the flat on the freeway, and might do 40km/h up a hill with a good run up. All sorted now.
4) It does have a limp mode which (as I understand it) can cut you down to low revs and speed to (I assume) protect the engine. This is reset by switching off the ignition. Recently after driving quickly up some very long steep winding hills, then driving quickly up some not so steep long hills, then a few more steep hills, all with good revs and now loss of power I suddenly found that when uphill, pedal flat to the floor it wouldn't rev above 3,000rpm and top speed was 60km/h (100km/h zone). At the top of the hill I pulled over, switched off, my wife took some photos and I let the kids stretch their legs. Restarted and drove off back to normal.
Have fun with your Disco.
R
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