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    D2 recovery points

    I was just looking at the "interesting discussion" on the D1 site re recovery points, as I had a look under my D2 on the weekend.

    My 2002 D2 has what I presume to be a very strong looking "car anti submarine bar" behind the bumper, with the tow loop sandwiched between it and the chassis.
    Besides making it difficult to fit a recovery point, due to the bar being formed with ridges, to me the bar itself looks strong enough for recovery by simply looping a Snatch strap around it, as there is only a small distance between the turn and the mounting bolts. I plan to take off the towing hook and recover from the bar if necessary.
    Any thoughts on this/ Has anyone used this as a recovery point, with good or bad outcomes?
    Regards Philip A

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    Hi Philip

    The tube you are talking about is definitely not strong enough for recovery, you can remove the bar, and replace it with a pair of recovery hooks attached to the same bolt pattern on each rail. There is also a bash plate steering guard available from the same suppliers to replace the bar. If you look up D2 front recovery points in the recovery section you should find them, there are a couple of suppliers.

    Regards

    Steve.

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    Nooo, better options, as above . You can keep the wombat bar though
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipA View Post
    I was just looking at the "interesting discussion" on the D1 site re recovery points, as I had a look under my D2 on the weekend.

    My 2002 D2 has what I presume to be a very strong looking "car anti submarine bar" behind the bumper, with the tow loop sandwiched between it and the chassis.
    Besides making it difficult to fit a recovery point, due to the bar being formed with ridges, to me the bar itself looks strong enough for recovery by simply looping a Snatch strap around it, as there is only a small distance between the turn and the mounting bolts. I plan to take off the towing hook and recover from the bar if necessary.
    Any thoughts on this/ Has anyone used this as a recovery point, with good or bad outcomes?
    Regards Philip A
    Phillip, I don't comment on D2's or any vehicle equipped with Air bags, I would consult Land Rover or a qualified engineer when it comes to Air bags/sensors that may or may not work if you modify the front of the vehicle, regards Frank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tank View Post
    Phillip, I don't comment on D2's or any vehicle equipped with Air bags, I would consult Land Rover or a qualified engineer when it comes to Air bags/sensors that may or may not work if you modify the front of the vehicle, regards Frank.
    There are no upfront sensors are there?
    Isnt the impact sensor under the centre consule?
    Thanks

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    Thanks Tank.
    the Wombat bar fits to the pre airbag bumper mounts so is behind the crush cans ie will have no effect on air bag deployment, which is also controlled by the crash sensor in the console.
    I didn't plan to change anything anyway. I was trying to use an existing component for recovery, but failing that I will probably use a "Toyota Hook" on a plate that I made for my RRC , as the mounts are identical.

    Really I was reacting to your point about the recovery brackets with horizontal holes being a poor design, as I initially planned to use them, as cutting 5/16 steel with a hacksaw to make mount plates is pretty tedious.
    A good design is the Jate hooks used in UK which are a cast bracket that fits either side of the chassis, but again no anti submarine or wombat bar possible.
    Regards Philip A

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    Hi Frank

    The recovery points fit behind the crush cans, so they do not affect airbag deployment, 4x4 intelligence is one of the suppliers, and there are others. You should also use an equalizer strap of sufficient length to spread the load between the 2 rails if using a snatch strap.

    Regards Steve.

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    Hi Phillip.
    Assuming you're talking about the wombat bar, flat no.
    I almost put a hole in mine accidentally standing on it, recovery strains would tear it to pieces.
    I know horizontally drilled recovery points aren't ideal, but I always use both points and have a safety feature basically as described by Tank in the big recovery techniques thread.
    This photo shows my two recovery points, complete with wombat bar still attached. It's fiddly, but it can be done and I'd rather protect my steering arm.
    Oh and please ignore the leaking diff breather and the winch cable not spooled on under tension

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    So are they mounted between the crush cans and the wombat bar..?

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    Quote Originally Posted by elshano View Post
    So are they mounted between the crush cans and the wombat bar..?
    Wombat bar mounts to outer side of the crush cans, recovery points mount to the inner side.
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