TD5 - Assistance with deciphering

Hi Guys,

I am keen to tackle the FPR as soon as the gasket kit I ordered today turns up. I will certainly post some pics of the Disco and also some of the FPR once I tackle the job.

Have taken some time off work for the school holidays next week and will use the time to do the job. The young lad might come in handy too.

Found the seller very good and up front. He is chasing his dream of being a share day trader in the U.S. so wants to just sell it. I reckon it was on carsales for about an hour when I stumbled on it. He was good in that he waited for me to come up and see the car on the weekend from Canberra before allowing anyone else to have a look in.

Tony
:)

Don't rely on the seal kit as a fix even if it does fix the dripping it is often only a short term fix.
Often its the regulator not the O Rings

Well an update.

I took the acoustic sound protector off the motor and had a look at the FPR. It was certainly wet all around it. What was very noticeable was that the insulation on the rear acoustic sound protector between the motor and the firewall was absolutely soaking. I pressed on it and out came more but darker this time oil. from the press new patch of oil appeared.

It was mentioned that there could be something leaking from behind too. I couldn't work how to get the rear acoustic sound protector off. i did slip my hand between the motor and the insulation on the rear acoustic sound protector and it had some what looked like grey graphite grease on it.

Looking on the steel drop tray that I stuck under the disco it just has spots and pools of oil that make it look quite bad really. I am sure with some maintenance she will come good.

Maybe the missus could be right about it being a lemon. ;)

This Friday it will be off for the road worthy for transferring from NSW to ACT so lets also see what they mechanics say about it.

I appreciate all your help guys and hope that you keep an eye on how I am going with the leaks. I don't want to go far afield with the family in it until fixed.

Regards
Tony

Hey tony, don't give up on it yet. It sounds like it will be the rocker cover gasket leaking..considering the engine still has a rear acoustic cover in place. Most D2'sTD5's have those left off after the rocker gasket was replaced. Just rip the acoustic cover off..I think its two hard to get to bolts .

I'd lose the rear acoustic cover, it's more trouble than it's worth. Mine didn't have one when I bought it, and I eventually picked up a new one for cheap. It lasted about 2 months before it got pulled off. :angel:

There are two bolts but they are a bugger to get at. I had to use a ring spanner to get on to them - an offset ring would probably help.

The steps involved in doing the gasket are included in this how-to. Just ignore the harness replacement steps (for now anyway).

www.discovery2.co.uk / Workshop /Injector Harness

I'd highly recommend replacing both the gasket and the spacers. There are a few tricks to making this a successful operation.

- Clean the sealing face and groove in the cam cover with something like brake cleaner or isopropyl alcohol to ensure there is no oil on the surfaces.

- Mount the gasket onto the cam cover, then push the spacers through the holes and into the gasket from underneath. They will be held in place by the gasket and in turn hold the gasket in place when you turn it over. Ignore any advice that involves adhesive to hold the gasket in place ;)

- Put two 3mm spots of sensor friendly rtv sealant on each side of the half moon at the back of the head.

- When you are putting the cover on stand in front of the engine and hold the cover near the front. This wll give you maximum control. There are shields that need to be manoeuvred between the injectors and the rocker shaft so you'll have to peer under the cover as you fit it.

- Use a torque wrench to tighten the bolts down to 7nm working from the centre outwards. Don't over tighten the bolts.

If you fix the gasket and the FPR/FCB that will solve the two most common leaks that lead to puddles under the bell housing.

cheers
Paul

Guys,

I am actually enjoying the challenge of locating the oil problems. From not knowing anything before the post what you guys have said on this forum that my knowledge has increased so quickly.

Armed with a copy of the workshop manual and reading all your posts I am getting the idea what is what under the bonnet.

Helping with the red herrings of where the oil is seen e.g. bell housing has been of immense value.

The missus is looking over my shoulder and laughing in jest that of course the guys would know about it. She says its because it is a landrover. All in fun guys as she is enjoying the ribbing. Don't worry I give as good as I get. She is a great lady.:D

Thanks again.

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Welcome to Land Rover :)

Hi Guys,

Well the Disco 2 went for the road worthy but failed on a couple of things.

This is what looks to be the culprit for the leaks. Not really an FPR as such but this explains a lot.

I took in a couple of dessert spoons of the main oil leak which certainly showed not to be engine oil. It was brake oil and power steering oil.

Now I was under the hoist with the mechanic and he showed me the problems.

The return hose to the power steering had worn away and this was very clear to see.

The brake master cylinder from underneath was leaking.

In addition but not relating to oil was the R/H front side engine mount had split.

The mechanic also said said the the drips of oil we saw just after the back of the shaft was the same oil and in all probability was the spraying from the front.

Anyway the mechanic was up front and said that if I was to buy the parts online from the UK I would save quite a bit. The labour he said would be about $400.

So ordered the parts and I won't bother to play around with trying to do the job myself as I need to get the car roadworthy fairly quickly.

Brake Master Cylinder (Part No. SJC100442) $144.35, Power Steering Hose return (Part No. ANR6974) $70.10, engine mount (Part No. KKB500750) $43.10. I ended up buying two of the engine mounts thinking they might as well do both at the same time.

So Guys, I am thinking that these jobs aren't too big in comparison so just maybe the Disco 2 for the price wasn't a lemon. The missues I am sure will continue to take the p!55 out of me though.

Thanks again for all your help and will look to get some pictures up of the vehicle in the next day or so.

Tony:)

You definitely got yourself a good buy there. A hose, a rubber mount and the master cylinder that the seals had probably gone on, for an 11 year old vehicle that's covered 300,000km, and designed to do all of that in off road conditions, really does not sound like a lemon.

So a few more days until it's roadworthy, and then you'll be well and truly in the world of Landrovering!

Here is a pic of the Discovery I just bought that has been giving me some problems with the power steering leak.

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