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    white smoke & no pickup TD5

    Just started today - huge clouds of white smoke when I try to take off from a junction & 5-10 seconds before revs get above 1000 & it starts to move. Its been a bit rough at idle for a while, but this new behaviour is worrying me.
    BTW I also have the 3 amigos. Its had option B so I've been testing the wheel sensors - they seem OK so I just need a nanocom to clear the fault.
    Anyway, hope someone can help with the smoking etc.
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    Alex

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    I'm pretty sure white smoke = unburnt diesel vapour. Could be injector washers?

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    White smoke is normally water

    Had a similar problem with a 300tdi and I need to drain water out of the fuel filter.

    There is a screw thread bung on the bottom which you undo and will let out water first then diesel. This will take five mins to do and the. Run it for a bit and see what it is like
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    Might be best that you don't drive it until you figure out what is going on
    If it damages a piston it will get expensive

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    If it's "huge clouds" off white smoke I'd be looking at the turbo.
    Mine did this not long ago as it pumped oil into the exhaust.

    Drop the hoses from the air filter box end and have look inside the turbo.
    Mine broke the shaft and you could see things weren't right.
    Luckily I didn't have to clean the intercooler as I caught it before to much oil got into the system.
    Also I had no bits of missing metal to worry about going through the system.


    For the three lads check the earth point of your option B also, some folk have had the earth screw come loose.
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    thanks everyone

    thanks everyone for your responses to date...
    In detail - yes, I thought white smoke was unburnt diesel, but I'm not sure why...
    I can check the turbo tomorrow, I'll let you know what I find...
    Its my daily driver, so not using it is hard, but I'll try...
    I have to take the rocker cover off in the near future so I can check the injector seals then, but I'll wait to do that until I have the new seals so I can replace them as I go...

    Any further suggestions?

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    Just my 2 pesos worth, Bob

    White smoke occurs when raw diesel comes through the exhaust completely intact and unburned. Some causes of this include
    • Faulty or damaged injectors
    • Incorrect injection timing (could be a worn timing gear or damaged crankshaft keyway).
    • Low cylinder compression (eg caused by leaking or broken valves, piston ring sticking, cylinder and/or ring wear, or cylinder glaze)

    When white smoke occurs at cold start, and then disappears as the engine warms up, the most common causes are fouling deposits around piston rings and/or cylinder glazing. Use of our Flushing Oil Concentrate and FTC Decarbonizer address these respective problems.
    Water entering combustion spaces will also create white smoke. Faulty head gaskets and cracked cylinder heads or blocks are a common cause of water entry, and are often to blame. Unfortunately, expensive mechanical repair is the only proper solution here.
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    Umm... you should acknowledge where the quote comes from

    Quote Originally Posted by bob10 View Post
    Just my 2 pesos worth, Bob

    White smoke occurs when raw diesel comes through the exhaust completely intact and unburned. Some causes of this include
    • Faulty or damaged injectors
    • Incorrect injection timing (could be a worn timing gear or damaged crankshaft keyway).
    • Low cylinder compression (eg caused by leaking or broken valves, piston ring sticking, cylinder and/or ring wear, or cylinder glaze)

    When white smoke occurs at cold start, and then disappears as the engine warms up, the most common causes are fouling deposits around piston rings and/or cylinder glazing. Use of our Flushing Oil Concentrate and FTC Decarbonizer address these respective problems.
    Water entering combustion spaces will also create white smoke. Faulty head gaskets and cracked cylinder heads or blocks are a common cause of water entry, and are often to blame. Unfortunately, expensive mechanical repair is the only proper solution here.
    Can I suggest that if you are going to copy text from another website (in this case costeffectivemaintenance), you should indicate / acknowledge where it came from.

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    Check your oil level as well. Mine did what yours was doing when the head cracked filled the sump with diesel.

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    further info

    Thanks Bob,
    no evidence of cracked head/block/blown head gasket - no oil in coolant, no coolant in sump (I just checked), so I doubt water is the cause of the smoke. So probably diesel - injector seals? turbo? PO told me it had a new turbo shortly before I bought it 30k km/18months ago, & it certainly looked new, but I never thought to ask to see receipts so I don't really know.

    Some further information:
    My last trip home this afternoon, when I started it, I sat there for 10-15 seconds in reverse with the accelerator flat to the floor & nothing happening except lots of white smoke before it started moving to reverse out of my parking spot. Put it in D & it took off more or less normally except for the smoke. Once it got going it was fine as far as driveability goes (maybe down on power).
    I didn't have to stop on the way home - only left turns. I had the rear camera switched on to keep an eye on things & what I saw was it not smoking all the time, but when I accelerated away from a junction it smoked bad up to about 2000rpm when the turbo kicked in & the smoke stopped. If I was cruising at 60 & not accelerating or slowing down it smoked too.
    Earlier in the day whenever I had to stop (stop sign/traffic light etc) it would again take 5-10 seconds (sometimes longer) to get going again accompanied by copious smoke until the turbo kicked around 2000rpm.

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