TD5 taking a while to start

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Originally Posted by plaven

Thanks Mick.

Watched a youtube video: Land Rover Discovery 2 Fuel Pump Install - YouTube

Read this post on aulro: http://www.aulro.com/afvb/discovery-...-pump-td5.html

And read through the RAVE CD... all I need now is the new pump and the weekend to roll around.

Pete.

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and this is how it all starts

next weekend you'll be changing the DC unis after that you'll do the leaking pinion seal and by christmas you'll be eying of an engine crane in super cheap so you can lift the engine out to change that rear main you're a bit worried about and wheile youve got it out you' just pop the stiffner plate off and tolerance the big ends and mains...

next youve got your youngest or fist born helping fasten the nuts and bolts you cant quite reach both ends of and to help locate the sockets on the bolts you have to torque up hard.

thats how I started....

If the fuel pump sounds like its gargling its still ok it echoes in the tank a bit and what ever you do DON'T TAKE THE TANK OUT WITH THE PUMP IN I had a mechanic do that on me once (had to take it to him cause I didn't have enough space to do the job myself) and I didn't know what damage was done until my fuel pump fell off in the tank while I was doing 110km/h on the federal highway. When my disco was doing that within a week I had a new battery in it since the duel battery system was put in by Hume Off Road I have had no problems with that part of the car. Good luck!

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Originally Posted by Husky

I got my pump from the Uk it was $300 or $400 cheaper,
But it takes 5 to 7 days to get here (from my previous experience)

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I had a look around online ended up calling the local LR spare parts, got a price, get the pump tomorrow.

Also get a chance to talk shop, the guy on the phone was pretty good about what to look for.

Asked about the oil pump bolt and he was quite suprised about it. Said he hadn't heard much about it, I told him it was all over the internet!!!

He also said a couple of guys across from where they are were building their TD5 engines... didn't get any names, but certainly would love to work on something like that with someone else who knows what they are doing.

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Originally Posted by Blknight.aus

and this is how it all starts

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LOL... well I would really like to actually get the darn thing dirty!!! I haven't taken it off road yet.

I'm hoping the fuel pump is about it now... at least for a few months.

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Originally Posted by Blknight.aus

next weekend you'll be changing the DC unis

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The what now???

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Originally Posted by Blknight.aus

after that you'll do the leaking pinion seal

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What's that???

I want to do the oil bolt first, been scared silly with that one!!!

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Originally Posted by Blknight.aus

and by christmas you'll be eying of an engine crane in super cheap so you can lift the engine out to change that rear main you're a bit worried about

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Well I wasn't until now! :) I guess it's possible to do that, pull the motor into the shed, the truck won't fit, but I could pull it out and drag it into the shed ok... I guess.

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Originally Posted by Blknight.aus

and wheile youve got it out you' just pop the stiffner plate off and tolerance the big ends and mains...

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Sure, while the engine is out.. why not? :)

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Originally Posted by Blknight.aus

next youve got your youngest or fist born helping fasten the nuts and bolts you cant quite reach both ends of and to help locate the sockets on the bolts you have to torque up hard.

thats how I started....

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Sadly the first born won't be dragged from his computer, but my daughter would be up for it. :)

Thanks for the chuckle. :)

Or the nightmares... will see how I sleep tonight.

Its the glow plugs.
Mine is the same.
Once fired up all is good,same with yours???
I had the problem previously,wacked 4 non genuine glowplugs in all was good.1 winter and the issue is back:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:.
If you buy new ones pay the extra coin for genuine.
Despite being a 5 cylinder there are only 4 glowplugs.
Andrew

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Originally Posted by Disco_Rock

If the fuel pump sounds like its gargling its still ok it echoes in the tank a bit and what ever you do DON'T TAKE THE TANK OUT WITH THE PUMP IN I had a mechanic do that on me once (had to take it to him cause I didn't have enough space to do the job myself) and I didn't know what damage was done until my fuel pump fell off in the tank while I was doing 110km/h on the federal highway. When my disco was doing that within a week I had a new battery in it since the duel battery system was put in by Hume Off Road I have had no problems with that part of the car. Good luck!

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The pump doesn't start when the key is turned, it eventually does and makes a high pitched whine, the sound is not consistent, I have to pump the accelerator to get it to start.

I've also noticed a slight miss at idle.

I think it's fair to say the pump isn't so good.

We'll know more by the end of the weekend I guess.

Hey Plaven,

The oil pump bolt tales are a cause for fear and trepidation for new td5 owners! I just did mine on my new to me D2. I didn't want to drive the thing without checking it.

The good thing is all the info available on fixing them here and elsewhere.

Good luck with doing the fuel pump

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Originally Posted by plaven

So can't say it's been smooth sailing so far... and this is probably the worst question to ask, but.....

The last couple of starts the engine doesn't fire first go, .

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just a thought, does the engine start eventually? if so rule out Fuel pump relay , Main relay, & the crank thingamajig. They are definite non start items when broke. Have you checked the old oil in the harness at the ECU? That can be intermittent. Also, clutching at straws, when I change my fuel filter, the pump makes that whining sound, until the air is purged from the system. Grab a torch, get under & get personal with your fuel system. Good luck, Bob

Just a thing from left field.
I have read in pommy sites etc that there is a non return valve on the inlet of the fuel filter that can leak and let the sytem drain back to the tank.
It is relatively cheap and easy to get at.
Maybe try that before doing anything else as from what I read that problem causes slow starting.
Regards Philip A

At the risk of teaching you to suck eggs, it is best to prime the Fuel Filter before fitting, this avoids the risk of a noisy pump. Also if you fit a new pump prime that as best you can before fitting for the same reason.

Nick:)