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    Quote Originally Posted by Pippin View Post
    At the risk of teaching you to suck eggs, it is best to prime the Fuel Filter before fitting, this avoids the risk of a noisy pump. Also if you fit a new pump prime that as best you can before fitting for the same reason.

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    Not telling me to suck eggs, I've never done this before.

    How do I prime the pump?

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    DO NOT prime the fuel filter before fitting.....

    you will potentially be putting unfiltered fuel up into the engine.

    make sure that before you try the priming sequence after fuel system maintenance that the tank is full. I happen to know a certain appy that made 2 mistakes when doing a tank change on a perentie that now religiously checks, physically, the contents of the tank before trying to bleed a fuel system.
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    OK Dave, fair point about priming the filter I'll take that mechanics advice off my list. There seems to be a lot of talk about tank removal on this post I presume no one is going to remove the tank unnecessarily to replace the pump? If you don't have much fuel in the tank when fitting a pump making sure that there is fuel in the chambers of the pump before fitting is worthwhile?

    Nick

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blknight.aus View Post
    DO NOT prime the fuel filter before fitting.....

    you will potentially be putting unfiltered fuel up into the engine.

    make sure that before you try the priming sequence after fuel system maintenance that the tank is full. I happen to know a certain appy that made 2 mistakes when doing a tank change on a perentie that now religiously checks, physically, the contents of the tank before trying to bleed a fuel system.
    Thanks Dave.

    Just reading up on priming sequence of the D2. I've just pulled the carpet up and taken the access cover off.

    Came inside to grab the vacuum cleaner and a coffee.

    Will sit back and think through the process before going back outside.

    I'm amazed I got a response so quickly.

    Thank you.. it's awesome.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pippin View Post
    OK Dave, fair point about priming the filter I'll take that mechanics advice off my list. There seems to be a lot of talk about tank removal on this post I presume no one is going to remove the tank unnecessarily to replace the pump? If you don't have much fuel in the tank when fitting a pump making sure that there is fuel in the chambers of the pump before fitting is worthwhile?

    Nick

    Nope, tank is still on. Biggest effort has been pulling the carpet up.

    Clearly this belonged to a fisho, the carpet is a bit wet from the recent rain and OMG the smell of fish is strong!!!

    Going to be a nightmare getting some of those screws back in I think.

    Pete.

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    When someone is turning up here for a fuel system job They are advised to turn up with the tank full.

    as soon as I start If im doing something that involves the inside of the tank I drain it into jerries (fuel holding type, not Ze Germens) that i predose with biocide 50 then when the work is done I put it all back.

    while you have the pump out, just have a feel around the inside of the tank, bet it feels slimy.

    that slime combined with a fuel/water boundry is what starts diesel snot.

    diesel snot is bad.

    Bad in the kind of way that a toyota driver talks about landrovers, except factually, not just made up drivel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blknight.aus View Post
    When someone is turning up here for a fuel system job They are advised to turn up with the tank full.
    I have a quarter tank according to the gauge.


    Quote Originally Posted by Blknight.aus View Post
    while you have the pump out, just have a feel around the inside of the tank, bet it feels slimy.
    Too late, pump is in

    Car started!

    I had a look at the bottom of the tank using a flashlight from a distance.. didn't actually feel for anything.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blknight.aus View Post
    that slime combined with a fuel/water boundry is what starts diesel snot.

    diesel snot is bad.

    Bad in the kind of way that a toyota driver talks about landrovers, except factually, not just made up drivel.
    What does one do about this snot?

    Is it worth pulling the pump out while everything is up to do anything about it?

    Pete

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    Right, still have a slow to start engine.

    New fuel pump is in, fuel delivery seems fine, no miss at idle.

    After sitting over night the engine takes ages to start. Once running things appear to be OK. I suspect it's the longer stilling turned off that is the first clue here. Either glow plugs are warning the cylinders or there's an air leak in the fuel line? I really don't know.

    Reading back through this thread a few things have been mentioned, however I'm in need of some suggestions for troubleshooting.

    Going to take it for a bit of a run to charge the battery up again.. it started to sound close to running out of power after this mornings attempt to start and I have only done short runs to the shops so far.

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    Pete don't worry to much yet, it may just be some residual air in the system which is quite common after working on the fuel system.

    Nick

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    Quote Originally Posted by plaven View Post
    Right, still have a slow to start engine.

    New fuel pump is in, fuel delivery seems fine, no miss at idle.

    After sitting over night the engine takes ages to start. Once running things appear to be OK. I suspect it's the longer stilling turned off that is the first clue here. Either glow plugs are warning the cylinders or there's an air leak in the fuel line? I really don't know.

    Reading back through this thread a few things have been mentioned, however I'm in need of some suggestions for troubleshooting.

    Going to take it for a bit of a run to charge the battery up again.. it started to sound close to running out of power after this mornings attempt to start and I have only done short runs to the shops so far.
    EXACTLY the same as mine
    Once its been run its ok for that day and sometimes even the next.
    I did once try cleaning the mini filter next to the tank so I may have damaged it allowing fuel to drain back as mentioned.
    Last time I fitted new glow plugs,the 3rd set the problem went.Im wondering if like some japper diesels if it drops 1 glowplug the others quickly fail too.Other jappers,like my rodeo work ute happliy fire and run roughly until warm with a couple of glowplugs.
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