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    Quote Originally Posted by Pippin View Post
    Pete don't worry to much yet, it may just be some residual air in the system which is quite common after working on the fuel system.

    Nick
    OK, thanks Nick.

    That settles it, I'm packing the camera bag, a jacket and going for a longer drive. We'll see how that works out.

    Pete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LandyAndy View Post
    EXACTLY the same as mine
    Once its been run its ok for that day and sometimes even the next.
    I did once try cleaning the mini filter next to the tank so I may have damaged it allowing fuel to drain back as mentioned.
    Last time I fitted new glow plugs,the 3rd set the problem went.Im wondering if like some japper diesels if it drops 1 glowplug the others quickly fail too.Other jappers,like my rodeo work ute happliy fire and run roughly until warm with a couple of glowplugs.
    GOODLUCK
    Andrew
    Wow, I really need to read what I type!!!

    I'll check out the glow plug situation, cost, installation etc. Although when the head was off for the machining, the mechanic said they were fine.

    Hoping a longer run will clear any air or related issues.

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    Try this.

    turn the ignition to run listen for the pump. when the pump cuts out turn the ignition off then on count out the pump time out and a couple of seconds before it cuts out crank it.

    If that starts it reliably then its most likely the fuel pressure regulator not closing off properly and allowing the rail to drain.
    Dave

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    This post discusses the non return valve ( and injector orings)
    TD5 Fuel Pressure problem - Land Rover Zone
    Regards Philip A

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blknight.aus View Post
    Try this.

    turn the ignition to run listen for the pump. when the pump cuts out turn the ignition off then on count out the pump time out and a couple of seconds before it cuts out crank it.

    If that starts it reliably then its most likely the fuel pressure regulator not closing off properly and allowing the rail to drain.
    Thanks Dave, I'll give that a go.

    I've taken the truck for a long run this afternoon, over rough roads and bitumen, so any air should have moved surely??? And yes still it won't start first go. Scarily it was happening in places I'm not likely to see much traffic go by. Sigh. It started though.

    So, the next question is, should I keep the old fuel pump? I note on the top it says it was manufactured in 2004, so this is a post build replacement. Might give some idea of age too... or not.

    Thanks for the tip Dave. It's appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plaven View Post
    (that was done by me following tutes here and on discovery2.co.uk ( that's going to hurt when that site closes down! ))
    Sorry if a bit off topic, but is discovery2.co.uk shutting down, and when?
    Dave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Whippy View Post
    Sorry if a bit off topic, but is discovery2.co.uk shutting down, and when?
    Not that I'm aware of Dave... I was just an off hand comment as I was thinking how valuable that site is with all the tutorials and information about D2's.

    Sites do close down eventually... hence my comment.

    Apologies if it's caused concern when it shouldn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plaven View Post

    Sites do close down eventually.
    This one had better not. If it did I might have to go back to watching TV.
    Dave.

    I was asked " Is it ignorance or apathy?" I replied "I don't know and I don't care."


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    I am curious if the starting problem occurs no matter what the fuel tank capacity is or if lets say less than half. At less than half i found the issue was the non return not working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plaven View Post
    Thanks Dave, I'll give that a go.

    I've taken the truck for a long run this afternoon, over rough roads and bitumen, so any air should have moved surely??? And yes still it won't start first go. Scarily it was happening in places I'm not likely to see much traffic go by. Sigh. It started though.

    So, the next question is, should I keep the old fuel pump? I note on the top it says it was manufactured in 2004, so this is a post build replacement. Might give some idea of age too... or not.

    Thanks for the tip Dave. It's appreciated.
    not quite....

    think of the fuel system as a hose thats attached to a hose at the top of a hill with the hose running down hill. Theres a hand nozzle at the end of the hose

    turning on the tap is the same as turning on the fuel pump
    the hand nozzle is the pressure regualtor

    when you turn the hose on if its full the first thing that comes out when you squeeze the handle is the water so long as the tap is on you get water out.

    if you turn the tap off if the nozzle isnt leaking then you keep the hose full but if the nozzle leaks over time the water leaks out of the hose and when you turn the tap on again you have to wait while the hose fills up, pressurises and then wait some more while the airy water spurts and spatters out of the hose.
    Dave

    "In a Landrover the other vehicle is your crumple zone."

    For spelling call Rogets, for mechanicing call me.

    Fozzy, 2.25D SIII Ex DCA Ute
    Tdi autoManual d1 (gave it to the Mupion)
    Archaeoptersix 1990 6x6 dual cab(This things staying)


    If you've benefited from one or more of my posts please remember, your taxes paid for my skill sets, I'm just trying to make sure you get your monies worth.
    If you think you're in front on the deal, pay it forwards.

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