Thread: Brake caliper seal kits - any to avoid?

Originally Posted by twr7cx

I'm still looking for a braided version of these.

I've never seen them. I suspect because the hoses are well protected because of their location above the chassis rail and their main purpose is to accommodate a small amount movement between body and chassis that the braided hoses aren't really necessary.

I'm sure someone would be able to fabricate them for you how ever.

cheers
Paul

Originally Posted by twr7cx

I'm still looking for a braided version of these.

Do goodrich do them?

Originally Posted by Vern

Do goodrich do them?

No. They only do the caliper hoses.

Originally Posted by OffTrack

It's only the front calipers that are different. The rear calipers are the same.

Yes, that is correct. I believe the rear calipers were used on other Land Rovers too such as the P38A perhaps.

I wonder what changed between the earlier and later model front calipers. Having recently rebuilt an earlier model and having the later model myself I cannot see any noticeable differences.

Originally Posted by OffTrack

The UK sellers I checked only list only Genuine or Replacement/Pattern for the rear seal kits but list OEM for the fronts, so I'd be skeptical about anyone claiming they could supply OEM seals for the rears.

The front calipers are TRW brand so the TRW kit is definitely OEM. But the rears I would doubt were OEM from Britpart.

Originally Posted by OffTrack

I've never seen them. I suspect because the hoses are well protected because of their location above the chassis rail and their main purpose is to accommodate a small amount movement between body and chassis that the braided hoses aren't really necessary.

There's also the increased brake response from the stainless steel braid preventing the rubber from swelling.

Originally Posted by OffTrack

I'm sure someone would be able to fabricate them for you how ever.

Yes, I can certainly get a set made up and I do intend to at some point, but it does mean having the vehicle off the road for a while in order to achieve this (or finding an old hose from elsewhere).

I have a pirtek contact and can get a set of the 4 hoses for $200- locall made and ADR approved. I need a sample of the jump hoses as they've never done them before and need a sample to make a listing.

Liam, if you want me to organise a set let me know.

What was the difference in the early to late caliper changeover? I have a parts book for 18999-2003 and only lists one type, #STC1915 & 1916 (LH/RH). The rears are STC1905 & 06.

For reference part numbers:
Front pistons STC1918 (2 per caliper)*
Rear pistons STC1908 (1 per caliper)*
Front seal kits STC1919 (1 kit per piston)*
Rear seal kits STC1909 (1 kit per piston)*
Front guide pin kit STC1920 (2 per calliper)
Rear guide pin kit STC1910 (2 per calliper)
Guide pin boot only STC1911 (2 per calliper)

* to 2A999999

From 3A000000 onwards:
Front Caliper housing + Pads: SEG000060 (LHF), SEG000030 (RHF).
Front Caliper repair kit: SEE000130
Front Caliper Piston: SEK000020

Hoses:
Front RH SHB101190 (1)
Front LH SHB101180 (1)
Rear LH SHB101170 (1)
Rear RG SHB101200 (1)
Jump Hoses SHB101350 (2)


Hope it helps.
J

Originally Posted by clubagreenie

What was the difference in the early to late caliper changeover? I have a parts book for 18999-2003 and only lists one type, #STC1915 & 1916 (LH/RH). The rears are STC1905 & 06.

That's what you get when you rely on print for information that is in flux.

Those PN# are correct up to 2A999999.

From 3A000000 onwards:
Front Caliper housing + Pads: SEG000060 (LHF), SEG000030 (RHF).
Front Caliper repair kit: SEE000130
Front Caliper Piston: SEK000020

The carriers, guide pins, and pads are the same as the prefacelift D2's.

Not sure of the actual detail of the changes but the master cylinder and calipers were revised for the D2a's to help improve brake pedal feel.

cheers
Paul

Be interesting to measure the master cylinder and caliper piston sizes to see how they changed the ratios. There may be potential for interchanging early/late bits to get different effects (early M/C with late calipers or vice versa). Given the pins interchange, are the caliper mounts the same early to late? If so the the later system could be retrofitted.

My book only goes to '03 so doesn't cover the D2a stuff. But it is full of handwritten amendments and notes of supercessions etc.

The revised master cylinder is the current replacement PN for all d2's, so there is definitely no problem there.

The d2a caliper housings use the same carrier as the pre-facelift d2's, so you should be able to upgrade by dropping in the later housings

Add: a quick google shows that it has been done before without any problems.

cheers
Paul