Mantec v safari snorkel

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Originally Posted by MR LR

Here's a somewhat crappy photo (cropped from a full photo of the car), I will take more when I do a build thread.

It was a bastard of a job, the 3" pipe had to be deformed to fit inside the mudguard properly. Took a lot of time because of this...

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nice build MR LR - my brother "upgraded" his D2 safari snorkle with one of those heads, they are really good in dusty areas.

onebob

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Originally Posted by MR LR

You have not considered the effect of pipe length in your hypothesis.

Also, there is nothing other than the fact it's faced backwards, which would stop water entering the mantec head, rain water WILL get in.

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touche' on the first point ...... but I'm curious as to if it actually makes any significant difference at the filter interface in the airbox anyway - would be nice to know.;)

Mattg - When installing the Mantec head onto the snorkle pipe be sure that when you secure it in place that the top of the pipe is not level with the inside bottom surface of the head - it needs to protrude into the head, aim for a 10 to 15mm rise. Any water that pools in the head can then only dribble back out the mouth and not down the snorkle pipe into the airbox. You'll be happy with your purchase :) and since I've had a snorkle fitted i have not seen the tell tale evidence of water in the airbox - you soon know if you have because it leaves a tide mark in the dust coating.

cheers onebob

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Originally Posted by onebob

nice build MR LR - my brother "upgraded" his D2 safari snorkle with one of those heads, they are really good in dusty areas.

onebob

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Thanks :)

I picked the 'Cruiser head as I think it's one of the better looking pre-cleaners out there... (still ugly, lol) and flows well enough for a 4.5 V8 so doesn't restrict the td5 (has a 3.5" outlet, had to flare the end of the snorkel).

I may fit a Safari ram for normal driving, but I don't like swapping things around (which is why I run muddies constantly, haha).

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Originally Posted by onebob

touche' on the first point ...... but I'm curious as to if it actually makes any significant difference at the filter interface in the airbox anyway - would be nice to know.;)

Mattg - When installing the Mantec head onto the snorkle pipe be sure that when you secure it in place that the top of the pipe is not level with the inside bottom surface of the head - it needs to protrude into the head, aim for a 10 to 15mm rise. Any water that pools in the head can then only dribble back out the mouth and not down the snorkle pipe into the airbox. You'll be happy with your purchase :) and since I've had a snorkle fitted i have not seen the tell tale evidence of water in the airbox - you soon know if you have because it leaves a tide mark in the dust coating.

cheers onebob

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I haven't run the numbers... but the length of pipe will affect response (this is the reason you have an air box in the first place, it creates a reservoir of air that is put into vacuum when the engine revs increase, instantly supplying the air needed, while the flow catches up).

Providing the design allows smooth flow (which it doesn't, at either the head, or exit into the air intake horn), then high velocity flow could be fine. But I don't see the design as ideal...

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Originally Posted by MR LR

....Providing the design allows smooth flow (which it doesn't, at either the head, or exit into the air intake horn), then high velocity flow could be fine. But I don't see the design as ideal....

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alas...!!
...just about every manufactured item we interact with is a compromise on the engineers original design and for a mulitude of reasons.

onebob

[QUOTE Mattg - When installing the Mantec head onto the snorkle pipe be sure that when you secure it in place that the top of the pipe is not level with the inside bottom surface of the head - it needs to protrude into the head, aim for a 10 to 15mm rise. Any water that pools in the head can then only dribble back out the mouth and not down the snorkle pipe into the airbox. You'll be happy with your purchase :) and since I've had a snorkle fitted i have not seen the tell tale evidence of water in the airbox - you soon know if you have because it leaves a tide mark in the dust coating.

cheers onebob[/QUOTE]

see the pic - this is what i was describing ie arrow is pointing to the top of the snorkle pipe

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...015/05/231.jpg

Like anything it's only as good as the weakest link so if the air box is only 2.5 no point going bigger. Unless that whole is enlarged as well.

I also recon if the Camel trophy guys found a disadvantage from the Mantec they would have gone with the safari. I certainly aren't ever going to push my truck as hard as those guys did. And now I can say my snorkel is the same as a Camel trophy truck. Makes you want to put a pack o ciggies in the sleeve of my white bonds T.

None of the camel trophy trucks were td5s though, although they did run them on the g4 trucks.
And who's to say safari tendered for the supply?
I'd wager the safari is stronger too, mate rolled his car and the safari fared better than the vehicle.
However at the end of the day, If we all liked the same thing we'd be boring :)

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Originally Posted by Disco Muppet

None of the camel trophy trucks were td5s though, although they did run them on the g4 trucks.
And who's to say safari tendered for the supply?
I'd wager the safari is stronger too, mate rolled his car and the safari fared better than the vehicle.
However at the end of the day, If we all liked the same thing we'd be boring :)

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yup! i like fast D2's and mine's faster than yours but I'll let you win :p

onebob

Let's revisit that in 12 months okay? ;) :p :D

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Originally Posted by mattg

Like anything it's only as good as the weakest link so if the air box is only 2.5 no point going bigger. Unless that whole is enlarged as well.

I also recon if the Camel trophy guys found a disadvantage from the Mantec they would have gone with the safari. I certainly aren't ever going to push my truck as hard as those guys did. And now I can say my snorkel is the same as a Camel trophy truck. Makes you want to put a pack o ciggies in the sleeve of my white bonds T.

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Mattg, individual proclivities aside you will be happy with your purchase. Just two simple mods - a chip and a raised air intake transformed my TD5 from an asthmatic slug into a sprinter :D

onebob