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Thread: Mantec v safari snorkel

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattg View Post
    Ok mine is on the way from the UK. Anyone put the top facing forward I recon it robs power facing backwards as there is a vacuum that the flow is fighting against to suck the air in.
    What you think?
    Glad to see you've got a MANTEC on the way (you first posted on this topic in Sept 2013). Muppet is 1/2 right and 1/2 wrong - YES the rearward facing head doesn't affect engine breathing (was discussed earlier in this thread) - and NO it's not the Mantec that's unsuitable suitable for Australian conditions, it's the tiny D2 airbox and filter!! i get size envy everytime i see a BMW E36 318i or new VW Beetle airbox.

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    I know people with Mantecs in the UK who suck in so much water in heavy rain that it soaks the air filter to the point that it's unserviceable.
    Yet the people with the safari style never have this issue.
    To me that suggests that the Mantec ID is too small, but that's just my opinion And obviously the UK is a lot wetter than here!
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    thanksfor the clarification muppet .... good for Australian conditions eh!

    All jokes aside though, if the snorkle head is installed correctly water is not injested into the snorkle pipe and the water in the snorkle head will drain away.

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    Muppet.... Interested in how the ID of the Mantec makes a difference to the effect of rain.

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    If the snorkel isn't physically big enough it's going to restrict the flow to the engine, which means it's going to be 'sucking' a lot harder to get the air in, and thus is more likely to draw rain in.
    There was some discussion about if it was sucking the water out of the guttering or off roof racks but I didn't follow the discussion to its close.

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    In my opinion Mantecs are too small (being 2.5" thin wall pipe) for anything other than a stock td5.

    So I made my own... 3" and follows the line of a mantec, but with a pre-cleaner on top.

    Flows nice, looks nice, is nice... and I can say I made it

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    Do you have pictures of your snorkel?
    I have the same thoughts about the diameter and thinking about building my own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco Muppet View Post
    If the snorkel isn't physically big enough it's going to restrict the flow to the engine, which means it's going to be 'sucking' a lot harder to get the air in, and thus is more likely to draw rain in.
    There was some discussion about if it was sucking the water out of the guttering or off roof racks but I didn't follow the discussion to its close.

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    Just in case you missed it I repeat - if the snorkle head is installed correctly water is not injested into the snorkle pipe and any water in the snorkle head will drain away - just as it does with the safari snorkle.

    As for fears of the TD5 choking, the MANTEC pipe dimensions match the airbox intake so ultimately any real restriction if it exists comes down to the airbox design.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Werdenfelser View Post
    Do you have pictures of your snorkel?
    I have the same thoughts about the diameter and thinking about building my own.
    Here's a somewhat crappy photo (cropped from a full photo of the car), I will take more when I do a build thread.

    It was a bastard of a job, the 3" pipe had to be deformed to fit inside the mudguard properly. Took a lot of time because of this...
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    Quote Originally Posted by onebob View Post
    Just in case you missed it I repeat - if the snorkle head is installed correctly water is not injested into the snorkle pipe and any water in the snorkle head will drain away - just as it does with the safari snorkle.

    As for fears of the TD5 choking, the MANTEC pipe dimensions match the airbox intake so ultimately any real restriction if it exists comes down to the airbox design.

    onebob
    You have not considered the effect of pipe length in your hypothesis.

    Also, there is nothing other than the fact it's faced backwards, which would stop water entering the mantec head, rain water WILL get in.

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