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    arb winch bars $1100 new bull bars cheap!

    i was googling disco bull bars and found these
    Expedition Exchange Incorporated :: Vehicle Exterior

    Find it hard to swallow that they are made in Australia, but are $700 dearer here.

    Just tried ordering one and shipping to my door is only $170.00 - should i try? and see what happens??

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    Quote Originally Posted by sew350 View Post
    i was googling disco bull bars and found these
    Expedition Exchange Incorporated :: Vehicle Exterior

    Find it hard to swallow that they are made in Australia, but are $700 dearer here.
    Nothing new.
    Don't forget to put freight on top of that.
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    Over $1000 ...

    Add in gst and other taxes

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    Just get the invoice written under $1000-.

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    I don't mean to brag, but I got mine, part 3432120, for $900 plus freight, due to a special sale. Here in the US, almost no one actually stocks them. Instead they get drop shipped from ARB's US location in Washington State. Freight was about $150 USD.

    I wonder if it's the same for you? I wonder if you order one from the US, would it ship from ARB in Australia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jafir View Post
    I wonder if it's the same for you? I wonder if you order one from the US, would it ship from ARB in Australia?
    ARB wouldn't allow this. It has to ship to the USA first, because the USA resellers aren't meant to be selling to the Australian market.

    It's the same with Safari snorkels.

    Personally, I think these two companies (and the many others like them) should be ashamed of themselves - it's unAustralian, and I don't think you can come up with a more offensive way to describe an Australian... The Government recently started with steps in questioning why digital companies such as Microsoft, Adobe, etc. are charging higher prices in our market < http://hothardware.com/News/Australi...Such-Measures/ >. With the Australian Motoring Enthusiast Party < http://www.australianmotoringenthusiastparty.org.au/ > having a bit of power in the balance of the Senate, perhaps similar steps could be taken in questioning some of the local Australian manufactures that are taking their mates for a ride.

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    Yes, it's called the "Australia tax"........we are considered an easy mark because we pay stupid prices willingly.......and even knowing this we still buy at these grossly overpriced rates....go figure
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    [Q=clubagreenie;2006255]Just get the invoice written under $1000-.[/QUOTE]

    I believe the total cost inc freight needs to be under $1000...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsperka View Post

    I believe the total cost inc freight needs to be under $1000...
    Wrong. This has been debated on here once or twice, and the confirmed fact is that once the invoiced value of the goods exceeds $1000, then duty and GST are charged on the value of the goods plus freight.

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    Duty is determined on the Customs value of the goods. The Customs value of the goods is usually the amount you paid for your goods, converted to Australian currency. The exchange rate that is used is the rate applied on the day the goods were posted or exported.

    to get around this have the invoice written in $A. Most sellers are more than willing to do this and even write it down to an agreed value and also absorb freight costs into the goods or I've even had the freight written down. Still paid full price but in a separate transaction and gave freight written up as "free freight special offer"

    GST is paid on the Value of the Taxable Importation (VoTI).

    The VoTI is the sum of:

    the Customs value (Cval) as calculated above
    transport and insurance cost (or postage and insurance) (T&I)
    any duty payable, plus 5% of Cval

    GST is payable on the total of the above calculation so that's why it's in your interest to minimise your on paper costs. You are also FAR better off to get your delivery door to door not door to airport. Get comparable quotes and the airport delivery will be cheaper but the difference is you still have to pay fees and clearance at this end, it's easy for the sender because they just stick the paperwork in the box and ship. It took me 3 days and an extra $300- to clear my gearbox when it came in door to airport. The winch was the same freight costs(door to door & $300-) vs $300- door to airport, only arguing and religiously checking and questioning everything got my locally fees down to $300- from over $700-. The winch was valued higher on the invoice but didn't get reviewed as it was one company door to door the company does a SAC so the decided it wasn't worth the effort as they had been paid a fixed rate to get it delivered.

    So to sum it up;

    <$1000- by post, nothing payable & no paperwork.
    <$1000- & by freight, nothing payable but Self Assessed Clearance (SAC) required
    > $1000- by post, SAC required and duties/GST payable as assessed by customs who will send out a notice of assessment before goods will be released.
    > $1000- by door to door freight. Freight Co are paid to do all clearing and all fees except as detailed in above calculations are paid.
    >$1000- by door to airport. Freight Co are paid to pick up and get it to the destination country by whatever means, so it could change planes, go via Dubai, Amsterdam and Moscow. Every time it gets touched by someone else there's another fee and more paperwork to clear at this end. This is where I got sting and only avoided it because the email from DHL global detailing the departure, airway bill etc didn't detail any fees payable except at the destination end, because the freight co adds these to their "charges" at this end all you see are things like "electronic clearing fee $450", "paper handling fee" $230-, "envelope fee" $75-. All these fees are then added to your goods costs and you I pay local GST on "services"that happened in another country.

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