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    Exploding fuel pump

    My father had a new fuel pump supplied and fitted about 3 months/couple of thousand km ago. On the way home from Miles at Toowoomba, he heard a huge bang and the car stopped running.

    After looking under the bonnet, his partner's son informed him it came from the back, and upon inspection he noticed the floor had been lifted, and the tank showed signs of damage underneath the car as if there was an explosion in the tank.

    He had it towed to Toowoomba, until he can get it back to the supplier/fitter.

    Has anyone ever had a similar experience? Is it likely the fuel pump has indeed exploded? I'm struggling to think of any other possible cause.

    If it is the pump, which should be still under warranty, what should he expect from the fitter/supplier? I'd imagine at least a replacement pump, but wouldn't think they'd repair/replace any other damage.

    Must have scared the bejesus out of him!

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    I recall seeing a bent up floor from a similar problem, can't remember where. I'd expect a dodgy connector or wiring short circuit would be a more likely cause of an explosion than the pump itself.

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    theres a well deck around the tank that the pump/gauge assembly fits into, its also near the breathers and the main fuel lines.

    IF you get a leak there, the fuel can gather, then you get a stray igntion source, typically static (Most plastic tanks will gather plenty of static while you drive) or a dicey electrical connection. I suspect that you've had fuel gather on top of the tank, below the floor which has then been ignighted If its petrol you can get quite a whump out of it.


    the alternate scenario is blocking of the tank vents and purging in of combustion gasses into the tank which then cracks off a fitting or line and blows vapour every where, occasionally with enough velocity to self ignite from the static created.



    I've seen it once in a falcon but not as a first hand thing only the aftermath top of the tank dented down floor pan slightly bowed upwards with very light scorching on both
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    Does this apply to a TD5? I could understand petrol vapour igniting, but could diesel also?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranga View Post
    Does this apply to a TD5? I could understand petrol vapour igniting, but could diesel also?
    It's actually the other way round, petrol tanks are usually full of saturated vapour with little air present, due to the vapour pressure exerted by the petrol. As in: caps always hiss outwards when you loosen them. Diesel has a much lower vapour pressure and therefore there would be plenty of air to support a bit of sudden combustion from a red glowing connector.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranga View Post
    Does this apply to a TD5? I could understand petrol vapour igniting, but could diesel also?
    you wouldnt get a "burst" of flame like you would with petrol.

    IF (and thats a bloody big if) you managed to get it to light off, it would be more like a slow burning oil fire.

    I expect theres something else that might be at play..

    IF the tank was fully sealed up and IF all the hoses stood up to it and IF none of the clamps blew out then MAYBE you could get enough combustion gasses in the tank to pressurise it and then IF the tank held up at the seams you MIGHT be able to blow the pump assembly out of the tank with the pressure.


    Theres a lot of IF and maybe in there.
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    Is it possible that the tank had a huge amount of vacuum in it possibly caused by blocked sucked the tank in and then something let go causing the tank to expand and belting the floor. Or possibly my wild imagination

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    Quote Originally Posted by lewy View Post
    Is it possible that the tank had a huge amount of vacuum in it possibly caused by blocked sucked the tank in and then something let go causing the tank to expand and belting the floor. Or possibly my wild imagination

    I'm thinking more your wild imagination. If it got to that the engine would not run.

    Keep us posted Ranga, as I and I am sure others would be very interested.
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    I would be interested to hear the outcome...! I bought the D2 partly for the 7 seats so the kids can fit in the back.....not sure if i'll be quite so happy for them to sit in the third row now......!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suomi77 View Post
    I would be interested to hear the outcome...! I bought the D2 partly for the 7 seats so the kids can fit in the back.....not sure if i'll be quite so happy for them to sit in the third row now......!
    I wouldn't be too worried about it. How long have these now been around?

    How many are out on the roads? And what ever it is it did not do anything major. And as has been stated, less likely for anything serious with diesel.
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