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    2004 Discovery2 TD5

    I would like to know has anyone replaced their Discovery2 TD5 Engine with a 2.7 TDV6 or a 3.0 TDV6 ultimately I would like to know if anyone has done and engine transplant from a TD5 to a TDV8 Range Rover engine. I love the 2004 Disco2 body but would like to get a lot more power out of it. Want to know if anyone has removed TD5 engine and upgraded to a more powerful engine and transmission. I do not want to go down the path of doing a lot of mods to TD5 engine when the most I will get out of it 400nm torque and I think around 160 kw. If anyone can tell me what I can replace TD5 engine with that wont be to much drama with ecu upgrade or change to one that will suit engine that I do put in and that I will have all the gauges working in dash etc . Any info or links would be much appreciated I am trying to do as much research as I can on this to find out if it is worth doing an engine transplant to a more modern engine with hopefully not to much issues and not to costly also. Just like to say thanks from now on any responses I receive cheers !

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    Yes it could be done but would be very expensive. This link will show you a D1 fitted with a Tdv6.

    http://www.bodylogicuk.com/index.php/11/327141

    But your comment that it would take a lot of mods to get 400Nm is not correct. A stage 2 remap for $340 is all it takes to get 400-420Nm with no other mods needed. Then with an intercooler upgrade a stage 3 remap would let you dial in 500Nm. Yes you would need to beef up the gearbox and driveshafts, but this could be done for less than the cost of a second hand Tdv6.

    Google Td5inside to see the amazing things Jose and his customers are doing with the D2 Td5.

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    My guess:

    Getting a TDV6 + running gear and computers into a D2a, getting it all talking nicely and making it legal... would cost you more than a cheap second hand D3.

    Interesting idea... but the reality will be very very expensive.

    As DiscoDB says, with the right remapping, combined with an intercooler and exhaust upgrade - you can get plenty of power out of a TD5....

    The difference in price will be miles apart even counting for the other bits you will probably break...
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    Great Info

    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoDB View Post
    Yes it could be done but would be very expensive. This link will show you a D1 fitted with a Tdv6.

    http://www.bodylogicuk.com/index.php/11/327141

    But your comment that it would take a lot of mods to get 400Nm is not correct. A stage 2 remap for $340 is all it takes to get 400-420Nm with no other mods needed. Then with an intercooler upgrade a stage 3 remap would let you dial in 500Nm. Yes you would need to beef up the gearbox and driveshafts, but this could be done for less than the cost of a second hand Tdv6.

    Google Td5inside to see the amazing things Jose and his customers are doing with the D2 Td5.
    I will be looking up as much info as I can on upgrading a TD5 any other info on this topic would be much appreciated much more googling and searching cheers again

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    400nm is not that much,,
    but its more than a stock 22/24 auto will handle.
    buy the engine and 6 speed.
    then you only need around 500 computers to make it work

    Good Luck!
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    You could always upgrade to a second hand 4 litre rover V8. Anything around 200,000 should be just about run in by now.

    Cheers

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    What about a Puma 5cylinder ex Ford or Mazda? You could probably transplant engine and transmission.
    I recall seeing quite a long time ago that they have a stand alone ECU situated in the engine bay. I am probably wrong but IMHO worth looking at as I am sure you could get a wrecked Ford or Mazda heaps cheaper than a getting a TDv6 to work.

    Regards Philip A

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoDB View Post
    Yes it could be done but would be very expensive. This link will show you a D1 fitted with a Tdv6.

    http://www.bodylogicuk.com/index.php/11/327141

    But your comment that it would take a lot of mods to get 400Nm is not correct. A stage 2 remap for $340 is all it takes to get 400-420Nm with no other mods needed. Then with an intercooler upgrade a stage 3 remap would let you dial in 500Nm. Yes you would need to beef up the gearbox and driveshafts, but this could be done for less than the cost of a second hand Tdv6.

    Google Td5inside to see the amazing things Jose and his customers are doing with the D2 Td5.
    I think it's misleading to say you can expect 500Nm (a 67% increase) from a remap.
    It's been discussed here in detail many times and a safe, reliable tune is not possible to 500Nm without supporting hardware upgrades (different turbo etc).
    The limit on safe reliable power isn't your software. It is how much air you can push through the engine.

    To push the TD5 to 400Nm (a 33% increase) requires increasing the boost to the max the stock turbo can sustain and richening up the tune to the limits of acceptable smoke and the limits of acceptable EGT.

    To push the TD5 to 500Nm while keeping EGT similar to the stock tune requires a turbocharger system capable of ~46psi boost.
    This is acheivable. With significant cost and work. It is not in any way acheviable with just a remap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro_The_Swift View Post
    400nm is not that much,,
    but its more than a stock 22/24 auto will handle.
    buy the engine and 6 speed.
    then you only need around 500 computers to make it work

    Good Luck!
    True, but it is more than a stock 3.9 V8i whilst retaining half the fuel economy and getting close to the torque of the original 2.7tdv6 but in a vehicle 300kg lighter than a D3. Manual should be good for 400Nm if not 420-440, just don't use all the torque available in 1st or 5th.

    And if you have access to a Nanocom, then for $340 it must be the best value mod on offer.

    But an Sdv6 or tdv8 in a D2 would be one awesome vehicle. (-;

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