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    TD5 Aluminium bolts

    Started off as trying to replace the EU3 fuel pressure regulator, but the bolt was slightly rounded and I reckon over torqued (well overtightened, if it was torqued correctly it wouldn't have been so bloody tight).
    So left with no choice I removed the manifold this afternoon, tricky bolt locations, much tighter than the TDi's I've done all my previous work on. As I was removing a bolt I automatically asked the spanner monkey (or wife as she prefers) to get the magnet on a stick to grab it before it disappeared as they do.
    However, all of the bolts holding the manifold, and as it turned out, the FPR are aluminium.

    I am reluctant to replace the slightly rounded bolts, which may be OK when torqued to the right value, in case/when I am back there I end up having to do the same again.

    So what is the deal with the ali bolts? I've not seen this on the TDi which had an ali head too.
    I know that you get bimetallic corrosion and I guess you struggle to strip threads with ali on ali, but this is a bit un land rover like to spend more money to be safe like that.

    Should/can I replace with a bog standard m8 or try to get to the bolt place to get some replacements?

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    Stainless maybe?

    Steve,


    I would be surprised if they are aluminium, maybe someone has replaced them with stainless steel (non magnetic)

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    I think you might be right, I didn't really appreciate that stainless steel would/could be non-magnetic.
    I suspect it's standard though, every bolt into the inlet and FPR is the same.
    I guess in that case I can replace with standard HT and a good bit of copper slip as I would normally do.

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    Steve. There is no way that the bolts would be aluminum. They don't exist in a motor vehicle.

    As for them being a bit tight and removing inlet manifold. Do you have good quality single hex sockets.

    I recently did mine and it was a bit awkward but easy enough that removing the inlet would have been overkill.
    Dave.

    I was asked " Is it ignorance or apathy?" I replied "I don't know and I don't care."


    1983 RR gone (wish I kept it)
    1996 TDI ES.
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    The bolts just rounded off and even when I had full access they actually took a bit of a tug with the 1/2" set, though I guess with a much better angle they didn't lose grip.

    I agree, I could get to the bolts, however once the first 2 had rounded off, not much, but enough, that just doing it properly was the way forward. At least with the manifold off I can change out all 3 pipes, and have a quick swiz at the alternator as well.

    I was drawn the initial ali conclusion due to lack of magnetism and the fact that they rounded off early and color, a dull grey.
    A quick search did turn up ali bolts which while I was skeptical, I've only just started working on the TD5, previously only doing all the work on 2.2/200/300/V8 , it seemed odd, but I don't underestimate the Germans!

    I wonder if the difference to EU3 and pre models makes any difference to access, but whatever, I will just replace with good m8 so that I can avoid having to take everything off next time. My guess is that the bolts were over tightened and a bit rounded from PO/mechanic and that the combo meant a bit of grief for me.

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    I dropped a few of mine never to be seen again, although over the next few weeks one would turn up then another on the driveway!LOL.
    Anyway I just replaced them with the same length 8.8 bolt.
    I do not know why they use those dinky 10MM head manifold bolts rather than the normal 13MM.
    I suspect it is to do with a factory worker with a magnetic socket on an electric torque wrench just mindlessly doing up bolts all day, and the big flange making it easier to do without dropping bolts.
    Same as why they have the nuts uppermost on the engine mounts. Probably easy to do when dressing an engine on a stand, but a PITA for others.
    Regards Philip A

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipA View Post
    I dropped a few of mine never to be seen again, although over the next few weeks one would turn up then another on the driveway!LOL.
    Anyway I just replaced them with the same length 8.8 bolt.
    I do not know why they use those dinky 10MM head manifold bolts rather than the normal 13MM.
    I suspect it is to do with a factory worker with a magnetic socket on an electric torque wrench just mindlessly doing up bolts all day, and the big flange making it easier to do without dropping bolts.
    Same as why they have the nuts uppermost on the engine mounts. Probably easy to do when dressing an engine on a stand, but a PITA for others.
    Regards Philip A
    Yes, a PIA indeed. The heater and bypass hose array on early Ford Escorts with the Kent engine were obviously made up off-line on a jig, perhaps by an outside supplier. All the screwdriver slots in the hose clamps were underneath and inaccessible on the car. Led me to believe the whole assembly was put in place as one piece. There are many places on vehicles where the ease of manufacture was first criterion and not ease of maintenance and repair.
    URSUSMAJOR

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