Thread: How much 2stroke oil to add?

Originally Posted by CountP

.......and the circle is complete.

Can't we all agree to disagree on this topic, instead of going around and around in circles?
Even if it is a placebo, if it makes some sleep better at night what's the problem with that?
Hell if I could some fairy dust I would sprinkle it on my Td5.

I'm simply pointing out that it has to be a placebo because there is no science behind it. I'm a believer in verifiable facts. Anything else is snake oil. But you can believe what you like. I may still choose to poke fun though because I'm a bit of a bastard

Originally Posted by Jason789

Mercedez Benz just did it to fool everyone and give them something to moan about that.

Mercedez Benz........Hmmmmm they are a pretty average F1 maker/repeated world championship team, luxury car maker, 4x4 maker, 6x6 maker, truck maker, bus maker, Unimog etc,etc,etc

But then, this dumkopf car maker(Mercedez Benz) added 2stroke to its diesel for some unknown reason on a rally half way across the world(Paris to Beijing in 2007 with an E Class 320cdi). Why would they do such a thing??

Instead of canning the idea with no basis for your arguments than jokes or 'I reckon' type answers. 'I reckon' that nay sayers should be providing some definitive proof that 2stroke added to diesel doesn't work and that it must be proven to Australian Standards, otherwise, it just sounds to me like a bunch of backyard mechanics giving their opinion against a long term car research/developement and manufacturing industry leader.

But I forgot, a collection of backyard mechanics must know more than and could do all so much better than Mercedez Benz. Geez, 'I reckon' I've been listening to the wrong people.


Cheers,

Jason

Just read the 5 page artical on this trip, not one mention of adding 2T to the cars.

From the artical;

"
Life was decidedly better for Denise, Alex, and me inside the Mercedes. The seat heaters fired up quickly each morning, and the kilometers passed rapidly beneath the Michelin Pilot Alpin winter tires (the caravan had driven through snow in Russia). Our recent stateside drives of the new Bluetec E-class had already confirmed that it is not only the finest diesel sedan Mercedes has ever made, it's the finest diesel-powered automobile ever sold in America. Forget your preconceived notions about diesels: this one is so quiet (or, at least, so well noise-insulated), so smooth, so bursting with torque, and so benign, we literally forgot that we were driving an oil burner. And you might think we would have remembered, since we were surrounded by belching, smoky, stinky diesel cargo trucks much of the time.


To drive the Bluetec is to experience the same privileged ease and comfort that one does in any E-class, except you can travel 600 miles between fill-ups. According to the trip computer, our hard-driven car had been averaging about 26 mpg on a steady diet of Aral low-sulfur diesel trucked in specially from Germany. The local diesel fuel in Russia, Kazakhstan, and China has up to 300 times more sulfur than European regulations allow.
With the aid of exhaust-gas recirculation, two catalysts, and a particulate filter, the Bluetec is the cleanest Mercedes diesel ever. It will be even more so once Mercedes-Benz and the U.S. EPA agree on a system where-by the cars can be equipped with a catalyst that, when primed by an injection of aqueous urea, will convert oxides of nitrogen into nitrogen and water vapor. The sticking point? The EPA fears that owners will fail to replenish the urea fluid every 10,000 miles, rendering the emissions controls ineffective.
Such microcosmic environmental considerations are literally and figuratively half a world away from the so-called coal highway out of Wuhai, where we passed trucks hauling enough coal to power Beijing for a week. People walked alongside the road collecting little chunks of coal that had blown off the trucks. The next 200 miles that unfurled for us in the foothills of the Gobi Desert looked not unlike parts of the American Southwest. We hammered the E320 hard here, jostling for position with trucks carrying coal, livestock, corn, and hay; braking fiercely; and keeping a sharp eye out for long-horned sheep on the roadside. Some of the pavement was rough, but the Benz's suspension absorbed the worst of it without complaint."

Somehow I can't see them adding 2T oil to a Bluetec engine, is there somewhere else it is mentioned??

Baz.