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    Quote Originally Posted by Thingy View Post
    They tried bio diesel at work, it was crap so they stopped using it. The mechanics were glad to see the arse end of it. Parks Vic and Depi are looking at changing from cruisers to mercs. Apparently they will have to add 2 stroke oil for x amount of k's from new. Must be some sort of run in thing.
    For the first part - read my post above yours.

    As for the second part - anything official from Mercedes? Or is this more internet rumour that has no basis in fact?

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    I'll see what i can find out, could be a few days .

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    Quote Originally Posted by isuzurover View Post
    For the first part - read my post above yours.

    As for the second part - anything official from Mercedes? Or is this more internet rumour that has no basis in fact?
    The first part was just my experience with bio diesel in a commercial transport application , personal observation based on conversations with the guys from the work shop. The second part you will notice the word " Apparently ". Nothing to do with internet rumour ,just what i was told by a mate that works for Parks.
    No need to get indignant about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thingy View Post
    The first part was just my experience with bio diesel in a commercial transport application , personal observation based on conversations with the guys from the work shop. The second part you will notice the word " Apparently ". Nothing to do with internet rumour ,just what i was told by a mate that works for Parks.
    No need to get indignant about it.
    Yes but you posted just after i commented on the distinction between B100 and the small amount of bio that is in most diesel.

    As for the 2st in mercs thing, spreading rumours some mate of a mate told you on the internet is hardly helpful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by isuzurover View Post
    Yes but you posted just after i commented on the distinction between B100 and the small amount of bio that is in most diesel.

    As for the 2st in mercs thing, spreading rumours some mate of a mate told you on the internet is hardly helpful.
    Only if i had presented it as fact which i clearly did not.
    No doubt someone is scouring the net for the answer.
    Merry Christmas and all the best for the new year.

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    Merry Christmas to you to mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wayne View Post
    You are unlikely to get a sensible answer to your post. Unfortunately the clowns are out in full force regurgitating the same old worn out lines about Hi clones, ferry dust blah blah zzzzzzz. The sad part is they think it's still funny even though it's been posted on numerous occassions.
    The other way of looking at it is ask a silly question, get a silly answer

    There is no merit, empirical evidence or science behind adding 2 stroke oil to diesel. If you want to rely on heresay and non scientific opinion, go for it

    But if you do, people like me that believe in science will continue to poke fun

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    Zzzzzz the conversation has moved on. You are starting to bore me

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    Quote Originally Posted by harro View Post
    I read up on this subject years ago and actually tried it for a round trip to Birdsville and back, about 4000klm IIRC and didn't notice any difference so discontinued it.

    But there was this guy on another forum (diesel specialist) who organised some lubricity tests for diesel additives.
    The results are suppose to be legit and include 2 stroke oil.
    Also confirms the benefits of Bio Diesel as a lubricity improver.

    I think this all came about with the advent of low sulphur diesel.
    Assuming that sulphur is the lubricant?

    So may be more relevant for CRD technology or even older mechanical pumps but maybe not much use on Unit injection?
    Pure speculation as I am certainly no expert or even close.

    Link to the thread for anyone interested.
    Lubricity Additive Study Results - Diesel Place : Chevrolet and GMC Diesel Truck Forums

    So finally, have been waiting to see when someone would finally mention what is the actual lubricant in diesel fuel! SULPHUR !!!!
    And what is diesel fuel called now? - LOW SULPHUR DIESEL FUEL -
    Why? because for those that can remember we used to have super petrol then it became unleaded. Why because lead is supposed to be bad for you. But what did the lead content actually do? It was the the upper cylinder head lubricant for the valves. Remember all the aluminium cylinder heads on cars that the started to have valve recession and then required steel inserts fitted.
    Now move forward to the into introduction of low sulphur diesel fuel. Same principal. the sulphur is the lubricant within the fuel. This lubricates all the moving parts within the transfer pumps, fuel pumps, and injectors. But sulphur is supposed to be bad for you as well! so the content of sulphur to a minimum so as when fuel mixture is burnt will expel low emissions. But only provides minimum lubrication.
    So by adding 2 stroke oil you are providing the lubrication aspect back into the fuel.

    A lot of highway truck engines were suffering injector failures early on when low sulphur fuel was introduced due to the fact that that the sulphur content was so low and not providing adequate lubrication.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmw72 View Post
    So finally, have been waiting to see when someone would finally mention what is the actual lubricant in diesel fuel! SULPHUR !!!!
    ...
    Sorry, but you are wrong. This is another myth perpetuated by many people. If you go back a page or 2 and read the journal paper abstract I posted it explains the truth: Lubricity of diesel was found to be adversely affected by the methods used to remove sulphur. However sulphur itself is not a lubricant in diesel.

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