Thread: Twin wheel rear bar

Kelvo, I have one that is completely removeable via a pair of towbar receiver looking bits, and for normal city operation I remove it and my spare still sits on the rear door. The swing arms on the bar can be a pain, as you have to disconnect/undo, before you can open the back door.
If you have quick release/remove for both swing arms, then you have the benefits of a strong back end and still able to use your rear door for normal day to day spare carrying. Worth a thought?

Originally Posted by kelvo

BUT it seems the price is quite cheap, about $1800 for a dual wheel setup.

not sure i call that cheap

I had a twin carrier on my D2 that a friend and me made, That car done the Canning stock Route fully loaded with the rear bar on, plus the Kimberleys and several other offroad trips and never did the weight on the rear cause me any troubles.


I can tell you $1800 is pretty good because if you worked out the hours we spent on mine I think it would have been dearer.




Cheers Ean

If you're not in an immediate hurry, I am drawing up something at the moment.



This is drawn for a rear winch. Tow option to be worked out. But wincheless design will have tow fitting (HR insert type) in bar. Above is FEA test of bar attached to original chassis outer mounts with an additional bolt to the second hole, plus a centre mount mimicking the tow bars mount to the crossmember. 20tonnes load, on the eyebolts, 7mm elastic deformation. The outer ends stop at the rear door width, with wrap around ends, akin to the xrox design. The whole thing can be folded out of half a sheet of 6mm sheet (current design, testing 4mm shortly which will probably be the non winch version). Provision in the ends for fitting the ridgy didge pivot for wheel/jerry carriers.

Originally Posted by gavinwibrow

Kelvo, I have one that is completely removeable via a pair of towbar receiver looking bits, and for normal city operation I remove it and my spare still sits on the rear door. The swing arms on the bar can be a pain, as you have to disconnect/undo, before you can open the back door.
If you have quick release/remove for both swing arms, then you have the benefits of a strong back end and still able to use your rear door for normal day to day spare carrying. Worth a thought?

Hi Gavin,

The plan would be to try and rig the righthand carrier to open with the rear door, abit like the Defender version Mantec and Murray (Rijidij) make. For on road use it might not even be necessary to use the clamp, for off road use this would be compulsory. If this didn't work I'd probably remove the righthand carrier and refit the wheel to the rear door, only fitting when I go away.

I'd also remove the lefthand carrier for normal use, no point carrying the extra weight everyday or the inconvenience of having to swing it away every time to open the rear door.

What make do you have, any chance of some pictures?

Thanks,
Kelvin

Originally Posted by clubagreenie

If you're not in an immediate hurry, I am drawing up something at the moment.



This is drawn for a rear winch. Tow option to be worked out. But wincheless design will have tow fitting (HR insert type) in bar. Above is FEA test of bar attached to original chassis outer mounts with an additional bolt to the second hole, plus a centre mount mimicking the tow bars mount to the crossmember. 20tonnes load, on the eyebolts, 7mm elastic deformation. The outer ends stop at the rear door width, with wrap around ends, akin to the xrox design. The whole thing can be folded out of half a sheet of 6mm sheet (current design, testing 4mm shortly which will probably be the non winch version). Provision in the ends for fitting the ridgy didge pivot for wheel/jerry carriers.

Looks interesting

So your design would do away with the factory towbar, and then your bar would incorporate the receiver? Would that need approval to be allowed to use it for trailer towing?

But I wonder if the bolt on 'wings' be upto the job of carrying the weight of a wheel plus carrier? It seems you're more than onto things like that though. Would the 'wings' also do away with the stupid plastic trims fixed to the rear quarts that keep getting pinged off?

Not picking at your design, just asking

Originally Posted by Ean Austral

I can tell you $1800 is pretty good because if you worked out the hours we spent on mine I think it would have been dearer.

i have a receipt somewhere for mine, $699

Originally Posted by Eevo

i have a receipt somewhere for mine, $699

I just worked out the hours we put in and if you were paying $100 / hr which for welder/fabricator is about right, 14hrs plus materials, latches , lights, stub axles for wheel carriers, etc it wouldn't be hard to rack up $1800.


You done will if you got a dual rear wheel carrier for $700. If you can remember where you got it let me know as I will buy one for the father in law at that price.


Cheers Ean