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    What to do!!!!

    Hello
    Im new to this forum and have been reading so many interesting things here. Things that I wish I knew years ago LOL.
    I have a D2 TD5 2001. I have had it since brand new and so far accumulated 326,000ks.
    Since February it has cost me almost $8000 in repairs and has been off the road for about 4 months and seen 3 tow trucks.
    It is in the garage as I type this getting a new fuel block and other things.
    WHAT SHOULD I DO!!!
    Do I sell it after the work is donw?? or keep it!! such a dilema

    After having all injectors replaced, new radiator, fuel pump, fuel block and various gaskets replaced, will it be OK!!

    What else could go wrong .. its like predicting the future hmmm

    Any advice, sympathy and general chat would be greatly appreciated.

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    G'day mate, welcome to the forum, pretty new here myself but plenty of land rover blokes with heaps of experience willing to help. Have owned rovers all my life, a few series, couple of rangies and three discos a 93 3.9 v8, 96 tdi and now a td5 disco 2.


    Only just brought the 2000 disco 2 with 270 000kms it has a good service history with very few problems in its life. Past repairs have been a wheel speed sensor, new radiator and auto trans cooler hose and that was it.


    I have owned the car for about 7 weeks and have a great list of extended maintenance I plan to do but since I have owned it the injector washers and o rings packed it in and filled my sump with diesel, while warming up the car after the injector washer repair the fuel cooler started to leak coolant so the o rings in that were replaced. My exhaust leak has gotten worse so tomorrow I am pulling the manifold to be machined. I also did all the filters and fluids from front to back while doing the injector seal repair.


    I am gathering parts at the moment as I am going to remove the head to replace the gasket and get rid of the plastic dowels for steel, while I am at it I will replace the injector loom, fuel pressure regulator, reseat valves with new springs, stem seals and a light resurface to the head .
    While the head is off I am going to remove the sump and check the oil pump drive sprocket bolt. Remove the timing cover, replace the chain and guides, new gaskets and seals etc as well as renew the engine mounts plus replace all the coolant hoses and the other auto trans hose, lastly do the cardinal joint on the front prop shaft.


    So other than the fuel pump and a few sensor I hope this will cover most bases and have the car ready to take on another 270 000kms.


    Cheers Roger

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    For a start you should drive to Kingston and let Justin Cooper work on it.
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    May I ask? Why are the injectors being replaced?

    Look at it long term... Its nearly 15 years old... Its done 325k+...

    Surely at some point its going to need some TLC

    What your vehicle sounds like its done is run well for a long interval and all the items have aged and arrived at a point of needing servicing all at once.

    A similar situation has arisen with the lads D2 (family has had since new).

    Dad had no issues with it, when I purchased it it needed shocks all round and a service.

    A big Roo strike saw the cooling system and head gasket need doing (6 years ago i think).

    In the last year - Junior has needed to do:
    Water pump
    Fuel Cooler
    FPR
    Battery
    Front Shaft
    Cover Gasket
    Cam Cover seal
    and now the Starter needs a rebuild..

    Considering 15 years of sterling service, and a harsh operating environment I consider these minor...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodgyl View Post
    G'day mate, welcome to the forum, pretty new here myself but plenty of land rover blokes with heaps of experience willing to help. Have owned rovers all my life, a few series, couple of rangies and three discos a 93 3.9 v8, 96 tdi and now a td5 disco 2.


    Only just brought the 2000 disco 2 with 270 000kms it has a good service history with very few problems in its life. Past repairs have been a wheel speed sensor, new radiator and auto trans cooler hose and that was it.


    I have owned the car for about 7 weeks and have a great list of extended maintenance I plan to do but since I have owned it the injector washers and o rings packed it in and filled my sump with diesel, while warming up the car after the injector washer repair the fuel cooler started to leak coolant so the o rings in that were replaced. My exhaust leak has gotten worse so tomorrow I am pulling the manifold to be machined. I also did all the filters and fluids from front to back while doing the injector seal repair.


    I am gathering parts at the moment as I am going to remove the head to replace the gasket and get rid of the plastic dowels for steel, while I am at it I will replace the injector loom, fuel pressure regulator, reseat valves with new springs, stem seals and a light resurface to the head .
    While the head is off I am going to remove the sump and check the oil pump drive sprocket bolt. Remove the timing cover, replace the chain and guides, new gaskets and seals etc as well as renew the engine mounts plus replace all the coolant hoses and the other auto trans hose, lastly do the cardinal joint on the front prop shaft.


    So other than the fuel pump and a few sensor I hope this will cover most bases and have the car ready to take on another 270 000kms.


    Cheers Roger
    Wow! that sounds like an adventure in mechanics. thanks for your reply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    May I ask? Why are the injectors being replaced?

    Look at it long term... Its nearly 15 years old... Its done 325k+...

    Surely at some point its going to need some TLC

    What your vehicle sounds like its done is run well for a long interval and all the items have aged and arrived at a point of needing servicing all at once.

    A similar situation has arisen with the lads D2 (family has had since new).

    Dad had no issues with it, when I purchased it it needed shocks all round and a service.

    A big Roo strike saw the cooling system and head gasket need doing (6 years ago i think).

    In the last year - Junior has needed to do:
    Water pump
    Fuel Cooler
    FPR
    Battery
    Front Shaft
    Cover Gasket
    Cam Cover seal
    and now the Starter needs a rebuild..

    Considering 15 years of sterling service, and a harsh operating environment I consider these minor...
    The injectors were replaced because one of them failed completely and another 2 were badly worn. the mechanic thought it was best to change all five.
    It has been a good car for many years that is for sure. I changed the clutch after 10 years which was pretty good for it to last that long. Apart from that and the work mentioned above. It has not had that many problems. Just general wear and tear.. Its on its second battery, second clutch and radiator. Minor things like the electrics are lagging and lights are out on the dash in places. Those things don't bother me.
    Im glad I found this forum. Will be learning everything I can

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro_The_Swift View Post
    For a start you should drive to Kingston and let Justin Cooper work on it.
    Thanks Pedro When my D2 is running again I may just take a drive to see Justin Cooper of Kingston.
    or at least find him and ring him and have a chat.
    Thanks for your reply

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    Hi discodilema

    Sounds like you have had a good run from the D2. The repairs and costs you mention are far from uncommon in a D2 of this vintage.

    Trouble is yes, there is still a lot more that can and probably will go pear-shaped in the next few years / 50K. Ask me how I know!

    When in a similar position last January, I chose to sell and buy a D3 TDV6.
    I got peanuts for the old td5, but figure I saved heaps in potential spending.
    The D3 has been superb both on and off road, and yes I have given it a thrashing, along with a lot of preventitive and ongoing maintainance.

    Don't want to come across as a D2 turn-coat here, but there comes a time....it is hard to part with a trusted friend.... but all will soon be forgotten if you choose to upgrade. You will be very lucky to get back half your repair costs at sale, but the market is what the market is.

    Either way, good luck, and you will be well served by advice on this site whichever way you choose.

    -Wasa

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    Quote Originally Posted by Discodilema View Post
    Thanks Pedro When my D2 is running again I may just take a drive to see Justin Cooper of Kingston.
    or at least find him and ring him and have a chat.
    Thanks for your reply
    Don't procrastinate - do it! he is a guru, as honest as the day is long, and you are lucky to have him in your state
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    Hi Discodilema,

    I am in a similar situation with my 2002 Td5 and after 483,000 kms since new have pretty much done most of the common end of life repairs as everyone else. As Tombie points out it is as much (if not more) about the age, not the km's. High km's though makes it very hard to sell.

    Like Wasa57 I knew I was going to be up for some big spend coming up and so faced with the same question I too bought a secondhand 2008 Tdv6 D3 with less than 1/4 of the km's of the D2. Unlike Wasa57 I kept the D2 but decided it could do less km's per year as I was determined to get it to 500,000 kms. A month later the gearbox failed on the D2 17,000 kms short. D'oh. Even with a failed gearbox, it still got me home.

    The good thing about the Td5 D2 is it is mostly easy to work on yourself, and once you have done all the usual end of life items, they should all be good for another 10+ years. The big ticket items being the motor and gearbox are still much cheaper than doing the same on a D3.

    My D2 may yet get to see its second life.....but the D3 is a nice alternative.

    The real question is do you go with your head or your heart? Either answer is correct as that is what being a Land Rover owner is all about!

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